EV is here now but hidden from Obama by Chevron GM

The Electric car is not something that needs research. It's here, now, but being hidden from Obama. The only reason it's not being produced right now is the collusion between Chevron (Standard Oil of California) and General Motors.

In 1994, GM bought up the worldwide patent rights and tried to suppress NiMH batteries. But in 1997, Toyota brought out a version that was improved to give over 100 miles range and last longer than the life of the car.

So GM sold control of NiMH to Chevron on Oct. 10, 2000; Chevron funded a lawsuit against Toyota, which stopped selling the RAV4-EV and stopped making the batteries. Toyota only is able to make batteries for hybrids that can't plug in, after the agreement with Chevron's unit in Nov. 2002, announced in Dec., 2002.

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[johan28]

liveoilfree, do you know for a fact that ther'es enough nickel for a country-wide vehicle fleet? If we did it, other countries would probably do it. Are you sure ther'es enough nickel? Btw, I see that the big value of NiMH is that it's non-toxic and cheaper than lithium.

[liveoilfree]

Yes. Nickel is plentiful, most is used in stainless steel and monel metal; the amount used in a fleet of EVs is miniscule by comparison. Moreover, 75% of our Ni comes from junk metal; NiMH or Lead, unlike Lithium, has a junk value and all the metals in the batteries can be reused.

[johan28]

My theory is they're pumping out atmosphere full of greenhouse gases because they knew our planet would cool down 100 years ago. They knew that our sun was going to shut off in the 21st century - like it's doing now. It'll free fall after the solar maximum. The greenhouse gases will help to moderate our temps.

No, I don't believe this theory, but it helps to make sense of their idiotic choices.

[liveoilfree]

Interesting theory. But the sun is not shutting down...and with greenhouse gases, sometimes the temp will fall, like if Greenland melts and the NA recirculator stops running.

[househippie]

How can this video be shown to Obama? YouTube is planning to stream Obama's "100 days" press conference live, so he must be familiar enough with the medium. Therefore, it stands to reason the information stream can somehow operate in the other direction back to the White House. Obama has indicated he wants an Internet-based, interactive government whereby citizens are involved in the policy making process and can provide feedback.  So, what is the method for providing this information to him?

[chairde]

Nationalize Chevron.

[Misiekgren]

One of probably many answers to that would simply be: because todays economy depends on oil AND oil sales. One can only wonder how much better would life be if ford hadn't flooded the market with the Model-T as the first vehicle on the road was in-fact an electric car.. did about 15km/h and had a pretty short range, but if we stayed with those and improved them over the years... there would be very little gas/diesel powered machines and cars. but again all the damn money is in petrol sales...

[r3inhout]

@liveoilfree we will have problems with the fast-charge systems. The electricity network should be able to deliver in the worst-case scenario. Which is if all the cars are charged at the same time with a fast-charge system. We can never have those amounts of electricity available. We could make it possible, but then households should be able to generate some of their ev-power..

[ivaniclixx]

@Sc0rPsX "longer THAN", "of ITS charge" ...

I'm getting bored of reading the same mistakes all over and over again; even I know that !!! And my language is not English !!!

[r3inhout]

Owkey thanks for your patience :D

[Sc0rPsX]

Well A) You can't possibly drain them everyday B) Say you actually do, they'll be fine. They're just guaranteed for 1,000 charges but will last much longer. Just grab a pack or two of Sany Eneloop or Powerex (ones that keep 85% charge even after a year) and use them for a while to test on for yourself. Get a real charger though, and avoid Energizer!

[r3inhout]

But 1000 times, if you charge them every night then you only got 3 years? sry for all the questions ;) I know they're good for the environment en so on :D

[Sc0rPsX]

No they're guaranteed to charge at least 1,000 times, they'll outlast your car. All the original NiMH battery packs in those Rav4 EVs are still in use today. They are a little larger but it's getting smaller & smaller... I think maybe 15% more space is needed. Bottom line is their proven and lithiums are proven to only last a few years.

[r3inhout]

I just read on wiki they discharge more, weigh more then lithiums and they have only 1000 cycles...Do they die after those 1000? I don't know if they're that good for cars then? I'm not being ignorant, I'm just considering everything ;)

[Sc0rPsX]

As I said NiMH is better but currently you cannot buy in larger packs. It was being stifled by Chevron but more recently Cobasys (own NiMH patents) was sold so maybe soon. If you want to make packs out of AA get Powerex or Sanyo Eneloops. For lithium I am not positive as they've proven to die in a few years thus not really paying attention to what's available.

[r3inhout]

I just found out ;) Can you buy them in packs? I mean like the brick type lithiums? Or do you have to buy AA batteries and make your packs yourself?