Letting Al Gore know we aren't falling for his junk science, Portland, Oregon 11/18/09

After being entertained by "We The Band" http://www.myspace.com/wetheband, Our group walked down to the front entrance of Keller Auditorium to voice our displeasure with Al Gore and his faulty theories that he espouses in an attempt to become the first "carbon billionaire".

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[AmbientSmiley]

Al Gore is not a lier. If you want to fight back against globalisation and corporations, you have to be accurate. Al is not your enemy. Your enemy is the man who convinced you that man made global warming isn't real.

This bizzare fight that you're running against Mr. Gore and the movement for CO2 mitigation, is going to be nothing compared to the fight you'll have to endure in the future. Soon they will have ten times as many disasters and terrorists to blame things on and take away rights over

[djssds4]

@AmbientSmiley - It's all about power and control over our lives. And you are are just another gullible follower. Do the research on CO2. An article in Science magazine illustrated that a rise in carbon dioxide did not precede a rise in temperatures, but actually lagged behind temperature rises by 200 to 1000 years. A rise in carbon dioxide levels could not have caused a rise in temperature if it followed the temperature.

[rpravak]

@StunnedByStupidity

Gore IS making money. Gore admits it. It is admitted in every newspaper. Everyone knows it!

I will be glad for you to deny it again just so everyone can see how discredited and ridiculous you are.

[AmbientSmiley]

@hapspir Co2 is a basic building block of life also in the fact that it keeps the planet warm and able to support life. I like how you do point out that if there's too much co2 in your environment, you can suffocate. Its a good analogy. There CAN be too much of a good thing, even if it is THE basic building block of life. This works with co2's ability to heat as well. Its a question of color you see. Transparent in visible light, opaque in the infrared spectrum. Simple as that. Co2 heats.

[hapspir]

@AmbientSmiley I wasn't referring to trade of carbon, just trade in the marketplace--that is how people should get rich. And we don't need to save the planet from carbon dioxide. Carbon is the basic building block of life. It is not to be feared unless you are in a confined space when a CO2 fire suppression system is activated.

The fraud is in their claim that carbon is killing us and that we are to blame for it. They want to cash in on our fear and guilt.

[AmbientSmiley]

@djssds4 The lag between co2 and temperature in the graph is correct, but not controversial. It is feedback. Carbon comes from heat and heat comes from carbon, the exact same way fire comes from heat and heat comes from fire. Read wikipedia's well sourced article on "positive feedback". Al did not say that carbon was supposed to precede temperature. He pointed out that the relationship is "complicated", and "When there is more co2, the temperature gets warmer" Which is a scientific fact.

[AmbientSmiley]

@hapspir As a matter of fact, I am in support of a tax, rather than a cap and trade system. I do not want to see people make money from trading carbon. Its is unnecessary to enrich these people in order to save the planet. We can save it without making carbon traders rich, and money is better spent on something else than mercedes benz's and iphones for carbon traders. Fraud however means they are doing something they aren't telling us about. What is that exactly?

[hapspir]

@AmbientSmiley Making money is wonderful if done by trading. Making money by force or fraud is unacceptable. Most of us are taught this before entering grammar school, but somehow we forget it by the time we leave high school (as evidenced by the alarming number of people who fall for the cap and trade proposals). We must learn to identify force and fraud when we see it, then people like Al Gore will have a much harder time running their scams.

[KnifemakingUnplugged]

These people would fit right in Texas. They ought to move there.

[Thisawareness]

Al Gore: Carbon Credit Fraudster

Keep in mind Gore is tied in to profit off this GW charade According to Deborah Cory Barnes, author of The Money and Connections Behind Al Gores Carbon Crusade, Al Gore started Generation Investment Management (GIM) with co founder Hank Paulson He was the Treasury Secretary. He is also the former CEO of Goldman Sachs. (Didnt Goldman Sachs just get billions in Federal Reserve pledges, bailouts&Tarp?)

GW another Goldman Sachs scheme to fleece the taxpayers

[AmbientSmiley]

@djssds4 I've been doing a lot of research because I was confused too. The paper: "temperature precede CO2", by which you probably imply the original paper that presented that graph? Listen. The temp. preceding CO2 is not a problem. Water vapor will make it warmer on a hot day. If you show a graph of water vapor in the air alongside temp., you'll always see temp. precede water vapor. There's nothing in neither CO2 or water vapor that can make it leap into the air on its own. Do more research. :)