William Lane Craig on Richard Dawkins and Daniel Dennett (Audio only)
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@wondergundy Intelligent people read the video title. Clearly you did not.
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I get sick of theists carping on about "fine tuning" ,lets just take the human race for example ,is downs syndrome , cystic fibrosis ,all forms of cancer, dwarfism, blindness, deafness , and many other, evidence of fine tuning?
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@MeLlamoBradly You cant be angry with god and be an atheist at the same time.
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@MeLlamoBradly Well kind of I suppose, but that's not exactly how I would phrase it. I don't believe that there is a god, but that does not mean I am 100 % convinced there isn't one. I just don't happen to buy into it. And that makes me a non-believer (as in a person who has no religious faith)
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@karlwilzen At least you admit atheists believe there is no God.
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@MeLlamoBradly Well you could be an atheist for many reasons, they don't necessarily have to do with rational thinking. However, as a real atheist (one truely believes there is no god) could not possible be angry with "him" as you don't consider the entity to be real. I myself used to be a christan, but sound thinking made me realize that there is no tangible evidence and the arguments put forth are more common than not based on wishes and hopes, rather than logic.
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@karlwilzen well, let me correct myself- some atheists are angry with God. Some atheists have motives behinds their beliefs, which aren't solely based on the rational thinking they would like us to believe they possess. I have known atheists, whose life goal is to debate the existence of God; only to find out that they were once believers who experienced some sort of tragedy in life. And most of their arguments are based around "if there was a God, there would be no evil or suffering"
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@MeLlamoBradly That's a generalization. Many atheists are angry, but not with god- that would be like being angry with the easter bunny. Instead, they are probably angry with condescending, arrogant christians who like to throw their weight around.
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@MeLlamoBradly When you get this "feeling", which god do you 'feel' the athiests are angry towards? Cause I'm pretty pissed at zeus, to tell you the truth. That asshole killed my dog.
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Craig's arguments on morality are pathetic. More than a few times I have heard him imply that because people believe in moral rights and wrongs, that means morality is objective, so therefore his particular version of god exists. It's basically reductio ad absurdum.
I get so tired of atheistic arguments that are based solely on misconceptions. I often get the feeling that the majority of atheists are angry with God. I don't blame them for being angry with his "followers", because truth be told most "Christians" do a great job of turning people away.
MeLlamoBradly 3 months ago 12
Please don't use Dennets' photo on your videos... I clicked on it expecting to see something intelligent and got WLC. The direct opposite.
wondergundy 5 months ago 8