The Future of Christianity -- Part 6

This is part 6 of a lecture former Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong gave at Unity in November 2008. In speaking to participants at Unity Institute's first Lyceum, Spong said Unity's unique gift to the evolution fo Christianity -- and the gift that changed his own live -- is a redefinition of God and humanity's relationship with God.

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[LeVarSamuel]

I Love This Man! Wise!

[HondaRealty]

You can quote all the scripture you like I'm an Anti Theist, Secular Humanist and Evangelical Athiest so your quotes are just psyco-babble and white noise to me and proves spongs point about Dogma!

[Apocol0id]

So many people would call this man a heretic, a blasphemer, because of his views. Not because he doesn't make sense, but because he does. The notion that all you believe may be wrong is frightening to a lot of Christians, who tend to be people who are afraid of change, and cling to routine and strict rule.

[auriciangelescu]

That's a whole new concept on crucifixion, more consistent with the God of love.

[yogggiii]

This man is my hero. I wish more ministers would have the guts to actually preach what they know and not what people simply want to hear. We have to stop believing fairy tales.

[HondaRealty]

and "me" was suposed to be "men" just so you dont give me to much credit.

[HondaRealty]

@JMackeyIII Oh so what your saying is your perfect infallible god created an imperfect world knowing we would all fall short of the mark and suffer and the only way he could think to fix it all was to become human and be excruciatingly killed..Oh boy! So we are created sick and commanded to be well. Well if thats not masochism I dont know what is. You are one sick puppyLMAO

[HondaRealty]

@JMackeyIII Oh so your god buy his supposed own words in s jealous god, angry god and we are supposed to be made in his image? So based on your theology human traits are similar to gods so I have every right to assign or mutual morality to him..geeez

[HondaRealty]

@JMackeyIII Again you doge all the issues. gods are created by me and religion is moderated by secular morality over time. My moral law is based on my own standards which again I dont need help from your imaginary friend to work out all by myself. That failing i have secular law provided by a democratic process. You would prefer theocrocy.

[JMackeyIII]

@HondaRealty again you are describing God and attributing to Him negative human traits and conditions. God is not a man. If you are judging Him and His actions and motives, what moral law are you evoking. Unforgiving, that is a interesting perspective on sending One's only begotten Son to live the life none could live and die as a ransom for all who would love Him. Unforgiving just doesn't define that selective maybe but definitely forgiving.

You are breathing. You havnt been struck down.

[HondaRealty]

@JMackeyIII Your statement illistrates that "Yahweh: "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unplesant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.""

[HondaRealty]

If I had to choose between Albert Einstein and

JMackeyIII and the discovery channel i will go with Einstein and I quote: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this"

Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954