Muslims and the so-called Moon god theory

Is Allah really a "moon god"?

This lecture is a refutation of Dr. Robert Morey's book, "The Moon God Allah in the Archaeology of the Middle East.", in which he attempt to point out that Allah is the Moon God of Ancient Arab.

Alhamdulillah,Brother Shabir ally gave logical and convincing replies.

Chick tracts are short Evangelical-themed tracts created by American publisher Jack Chick. Chick tracts are styled as comics and are often controversial for their enthusiastic endorsement of fundamentalist Christianity and condemnation of other religions.

The comic book tells the tale of a conversation between a Muslim and a Christian man discussing the difference between the two religions, and ends with the Muslim converting to Christianity and denouncing his faith. In the course of the conversation the "Christian" man insults Islam, describing Muslims as "moon worshippers" and claims that Islam is a fake religion..

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp

Brother Shabir Ally has written a booklet titled "Reply To Dr. Robert Morey's Moon-God Myth & Other Deceptive Attacks On Islam" in response to Morey's book.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongods.html

Dr. Jamal Badawi and Shabir ally had also two debates with Dr. Roberty Morey on the same topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMo__lAFA

Shabir Ally holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis.

He is now in his third year of PhD studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.

He is the president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto where he functions as Imam.

He travels internationally to represent Islam in public lectures and interfaith dialogues.

He explains Islam on a weekly television program called 'Let the Quran Speak'.

The Topic: Muslims and the so-called Moon god theory

A talk by Shabir Ally

(14th Annual Islamic Dawah Conference, London, U.K. 4th August 2001)

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[milkyroadtube]

Moon God theory is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. There cannot be in principle more monotheistic religion than Islam. I am not muslim, I am jewish and I am saying this for the love of thruth. The greatest of Jewish religious thinkers - Rambam (aka Maimonides) wrote more than 800 years ago that Muslims are perfect monotheists and the Jewish Law says if you don't have a synagogue around you should enter a mosque and pray there.

[decombe666]

@RockStudioLive The moon has nothing to do with islam..it is the sign of the ottoman empire,the first ottoman leader osman had a dream of a cercent moon. he belived it was a good omen.

[Jetblackcrack]

lol I bet if this was a christian claim, everyone would praise this.

Majority wins. No exceptions.

[ultimatemaijn]

@TheSaffyone That would be a pretty difficult fete without some kind of literature such as a manuscript or poetry. Of course they could always say the evidence of moon god worship was destroyed. If that's the since, then how do people know they worshiped the moon god as the supreme deity. There is pre Islamic literature that dates back to 1000 BCE. Why is there no literature with the rituals on it though. Their supreme deity could have been the cloud god or something.

[TheSaffyone]

@ultimatemaijn As you said, the burden is on them to prove that the pagans practiced the same rituals. Then you will meet their lords and they will be asked to justify the trinity. Can the trinity be justified?

[ultimatemaijn]

@TheSaffyone Muhammad would fast for 3 days a month. Ramadan is a modified version of it. Praying 5 times a day comes from the Jewish several prayers a day. A lot of the customs came from Jews. They try to say that Allah is pagan because the pagans used the title for their chief god. El was used by all the Canaanite tribes and Yahweh have Egyptian origins. There were a group of monotheists there at the time also. The burden is on them to prove that the pagans practiced the same rituals.

[TheSaffyone]

@ultimatemaijn Not to mentioned ignorance age had some rituals of Ibrahmic faith but Islam came to cleanse everything and put things back to order "pure Ibrahmic Hanif Islam". Allah is known in pagan Arabia but they had associated other gods with him.

Islam is far away from Paganism and they know it. In fact Christianity is pagan to the extent adopting the birth day 25/12 of the Mithra to be Christ's birth day "The first in the Trinity". A man god by definition is paganism.

[ultimatemaijn]

@TheSaffyone You know, the Muslims pray times towards the Kaaba because the Pagans did. They go on the Hajj because the Pagans did. They observe Ramadan and give Zakat because the Pagans did. Now historians do have pre Islamic literature that dates back to 1000 BCE. For some reason, there is no literature about the "pagan" Islamic traditions found in that literature. No Ramadan or Salat.

[ultimatemaijn]

@TheSaffyone In fact, I am debating with a youtube user about whether Muslims worship a moon god and practice rituals from pagan Arabia. After I made some good refutations, he dropped a copy and pasted paged in my inbox. I know it was a copy and paste because it had numbers like [vii] and [vii] within the message. He had some pre islamic historians with arabic names in his message. Of course you know the usual conclusion they always make. to be continued...

[TheSaffyone]

@ultimatemaijn I have just for the first time spoke with a monotheist Christian who doesn't believe in a trinity. This type of Christianity is fought by Christians. Unitarian Christians are monotheists. I totally agree

[ultimatemaijn]

@TheSaffyone Some forms of Christianity are purely monotheistic. Remember, they forgot a good part of their of their message.