Symphony Idea, Early Stages.

Sorry about the quality.

For you Theorists: (I hate you :D)

This would be the near the ending of the P section with a PAC and final module approaching the Medial Caesura, although the MC and proceeding MC-fill posses a problem as they to don't appear to be in the dominate key as we would expect, but rather this interjection is 12-tone, there for this would be declined.

It would be hard to determine whether it should goto III or V anyway do to the ambiguity surrounding the continual modal mixture embedded with in the P section.

After the 12-Tone string plight I would have to bring in a slow introduction back to full orchestra introducing a proper S theme, further developing the multitude of 3 note collections/themes and motifs I left behind in the previous P section.



My Matrix: (12-tone section)

--2 4 6 2 2 1 2 2 6 4 2
*3 5 1 7 9 E 0 2 4 T 6 8*
=-----------------------

3 - 5 - 1 - 7 - 9 - E - 0 - 2 - 4 - T - 6 - 8 -
1 - 3 - E - 5 - 7 - 9 - T - 0 - 2 - 8 - 4 - 6 -
5 - 7 - 3 - 9 - E - 1 - 2 - 4 - 6 - 0 - 8 - T -
E - 1 - 9 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 8 - T - 0 - 6 - 2 - 4 -
9 - E - 7 - 1 - 3 - 5 - 6 - 8 - T - 4 - 0 - 2 -
7 - 9 - 5 - E - 1 - 3 - 4 - 6 - 8 - 2 - T - 0 -
6 - 8 - 4 - T - 0 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 1 - 9 - E -
4 - 6 - 2 - 8 - T - 0 - 1 - 3 - 5 - E - 7 - 9 -
2 - 4 - 0 - 6 - 8 - T - E - 1 - 3 - 9 - 5 - 7 -
8 - T - 6 - 0 - 2 - 4 - 5 - 7 - 9 - 3 - E - 1 -
0 - 2 - T - 4 - 6 - 8 - 9 - E - 1 - 7 - 3 - 5 -
T - 0 - 8 - 2 - 4 - 6 - 7 - 9 - E - 5 - 1 - 3 -


P are, rows going left.
Retrograde(R) are rows going right.
Inversions(I) are columns going down, Retrograde Inversions(RI) are columns going up.
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It's all combinatorial x6.
Eliminates Retrogrades.
**PALINDROME**
And it's a whole tone row, the 1st half of the row is the a whole tone scale and the 2nd half is the only other whole tone scale.

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[gr4l9um20b7o]

Hey I'm interested in your score, where can I find it?

[LOTRzagorath]

Wow, this is really cool!

Particularly:

Could anyone perhaps explain the description to me? P section with a PAC and final module approaching the Medial Caesura, although the MC and proceeding MC-fill posses a problem as they to don't appear to be in the dominate key as we would expect

[vincentizghra]

@JJRaff18221882 Pardon my french but you're full of .... Why wouldn't you want to make it interesting for the listener? I liked the ideas and I suspect the themes will develop more further on, after I've been distracted by beautiful new colors. And don't try to sound like Rimsky-Korsakov, while a good composer, this guys fragmentality surely outshines in potential, that which Rimsky-Korsakov accomplished.

[composer54]

@JJRaff18221882

Exuse me, you cannot know what can wil happen further on to the ideas of the composer in question you mention in your comment.

Your opinion relative in the first place and the problem is you put in the focus a few common things what are slightly important,really. But ignore that the sound and feeling what we can here in this demo is a really gifted starting.

Sorry if I made mistakes in my English, this language is not my mother tongue.

Sincerely,

Gábor Kemény

[composer54]

It's a really talented starting. I like what you put on.

Good work to be if you continue.

I'm a pianist as an artist for 33 and a composer for 50 years now almost in every fields of music, so I know what I'm talking about. Cheer up and work! You're very good! :)

Gábor

[JJRaff18221882]

You have some good ideas but you don't do anything with them. That eastern-sounding clarinet theme, for instance, could be developed more (think Rimsky-Korsakov). As a composer, you're free to write what you want, of course. However, it's not always effective to mix styles so often as here. Also, let your orchestral colors "flow" more than having them enter and exit so abruptly. As you work on this further, put yourself in the listener's place. Don't ask their ears to shift gears so much.

[tiago3m]

Very interesting. Pass on my channel, I posted my first two first compositions for orchestra. watch?v=5gAodsEKwuA