RELIGIOUS HARDTALK JAMAICAN TV; ISLAM AHMADIYYA (Part 2/4)

Aired on Aug 9 2011; Enjoy this episode from Jamaican television program "Relgious Hardtalk" hosted by Ian Boyne about Worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

To know more about the Worldwide Ahmadiyya Community in Islam, visit our official website: www.alislam.org

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[bedp1]

MR. JESUS IN INDIA?????? NO PROOF AT ALL.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@bedp1 Well there is enough evidence available for true seekers of truth showing Jesus' migration, life and demise in India. You wouldn't take my word for it, so here is this BBC documentary "Did Jesus Die?" on the topic for you: /watch?v=zqp2bgB5DmE

[bedp1]

@IslamAhmadiya no doubt muslims don't consider u muslims.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@bedp1 Does it matter if others consider us Muslims or not? It is Allah Almighty alone who has the right to make such Judgements. If it matters to you as to what they have to say about us, then you can keep following them. We will follow the teachings of Quran and our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in letter and spirit insha Allah.

[chaukange]

@IslamAhmadiya, why has it taken more than 1300 yrs before these theory of the death of jesus(pbuh)? meaning, the prophet(pbuh) and the swahaba(raa) never said anything about his death,you`ll never get any single sahih hadith over that,the only groups which believe that jesus(pbuh) died are ahmadiyyas and christians(with all due respect),even the shias who are more than right dont believe in that.All those imams(shaffi,hanbal etc) never said about the death,or were they liars?hope you c light.aa

[IslamAhmadiya]

@chaukange You have chosen to avoid the issue of "mutawafeeka". I have already explained to you from the verse of Quran that Jesus (as) is dead like all other prophets. The hadith mentioned in the same under 60 seconds video also confirms the death of Jesus (as). Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and then came back to eternal life 3 days later. Ahmadiyya belief about Jesus breaks the very foundations of modern Christianity. Watch this BBC documentary and learn: /watch?v=zqp2bgB5DmE

[IslamAhmadiya]

@chaukange You are right, hadith has to be read in light of Quranic teachings. If "Mutawaffeeka" means "you took me up" in your dictionary brother, then why don't you give me a different reference from Quran where the same word of "Mutawaffeeka" or word from the same root means "you took me up". I need a reference of this where Jesus is not mentioned because those who have translated this word as "you took me up" have deliberately done it only because they believe Jesus is alive.

[DRXCIX]

(#4) If necessary, they should create their own clothing style, for example: linen or cotton matching shirt/jacket & pant set, matching pant & shirt suits similar to former president Maurice Bishop of Grenada, or jacket & pant suits similar to the west African safari suit - these are just suggestions.

[DRXCIX]

(#3) All Muslims & Muslim communities have the same Qur'an, the same tenants of faith & the same pillars of the religion. The different communities should never be compared to the difference in Christianity. Also, I have this minor pet peeve, that Jamaicans should dress like Jamaicans and not dress like Arabs or like the Prophet, they are Jamaicans and they should bring this culture to their Islam (See #4)

[DRXCIX]

(#2) The trinity concept, soul sleep, the Bible as literal or metaphorical, whether the 2nd coming has occurred, the necessity of baptism, Jesus as God or the Son of God, who to pray to, which Bible to accept, etc. The different communities of Islam do not differ in their articles of faith or their fundamental religious beliefs; they differ in political ways (like who should be the present day religious leader, who is or will be the present day Mahdi & Messiah, etc). (See #3)

[DRXCIX]

Only God can decide who is a Muslim, men cannot & should not make that call. However, the major issue I have with the Muslims on this video is that they spoke as if the different communities of Islam (Sunni, Shi'ah, Ahmadiyya, NOI, etc.) are different religions; similar to how the different Christian religions are different religions. In Christianity, the different religions are different because they differ in their articles of faith & their fundamental religious beliefs, like: (See #2)