The HISTORY NEWS NETWORK (http://hnn.us) recorded this appearance of Douglas Brinkley at the annual meeting of the Organization of American Historians on April 1, 2007.
I agree! we need to spread the msg of this diabolic triad of neocons, zionists and corporations. They do not care about anyone but themselves and their goals of control, genocide and wealth.
again, werebear, I don't disagree with much of what you write. But alot of the validity is obfuscated by the conspiracy rhetoric. In light of recent history I wouldn't ascribe such brilliance and dark powers to the Jews. After all it was the neo-cons, many of them Jewish, who came up with the idiotic Iraq invasion. Bush and the neocons and the current Israeli administration are dangerous....not because of their brilliance but due to their total lack of competence.
The rest of the world will be in chaos and turmoil. Israel, with their agents and spies worldwide and nuclear capacity (Kept "secret" until recently, and without signing any treaties or allowing inspections), will hold the world hostage and enslaved. In the USA, big cities will turn into civil war zones. USA is not a producer anymore, so they will feel the impact more than any other nation.
The deal is, once all possible Arab resistance have been obliterated/genocided (Over 655,000 dead innocent Iraquies up till 2005) and the USA's mega-fortress is installed, and Israel has stolen enough land from Palestine and their neighbors, and Iran has been attacked and their oil taken, the Central Banks/Stock market will trigger the "Grand depression". Israel will be in control of the world's oil supply and their "biblical prophesy" will be fulfilled.
I totally agree, and I named earlier on a list of the Lobbies who pushed for the war, and most of them where Jewish Lobbies. I am well aware of groups of Jewish people who do not support Israeli policies or the war as I am part of a few of them. Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein and Israel Adam Shamir are amongst the best. It isn't anti-semitic to point out the obvious Israeli involvement. Not doing so is covering up. I won't be an accomplice of criminal acts of such or any magnitude.
Yes not all Jews are Semites, not all Zionists are Jews, not all, not all Jews support the current Israeli administration and many Jews are outspoken critics of the Bush policies in the Middle East. Your problem isn't with the Jews its with corporations that continue to reap huge profits from this war. Follow the money....
Anti-Semite, and the miss-use and abuse of the word. Over 85% of the Jews in Palestine/Israel are of Eastern Russian (Ashkenazi) origin, therefore they don't count as Semites as they are not part of any of the Semite groups. This also implies that 85% is claiming ownership of a land their ancestors have never been to. Arabs are Semites, so hating Arabs would make you an anti-Semite.
I should have used the simple and more general term Zionist to include Jews as well as Christian and non-religious supporters. I promise to be more clear on my next postings. I must also clarify the Jewish pro-Israel lobbies where the most numerous and aggressive in pushing for the war, hence the redundancy on my previous comment.
Hmmmm. . .
jackass4evah 4 years ago
message to werebear 1: Thumb up! You're on the right track.
gallferi 4 years ago
I agree! we need to spread the msg of this diabolic triad of neocons, zionists and corporations. They do not care about anyone but themselves and their goals of control, genocide and wealth.
werebear1 4 years ago
again, werebear, I don't disagree with much of what you write. But alot of the validity is obfuscated by the conspiracy rhetoric. In light of recent history I wouldn't ascribe such brilliance and dark powers to the Jews. After all it was the neo-cons, many of them Jewish, who came up with the idiotic Iraq invasion. Bush and the neocons and the current Israeli administration are dangerous....not because of their brilliance but due to their total lack of competence.
cabinweasel 4 years ago
The rest of the world will be in chaos and turmoil. Israel, with their agents and spies worldwide and nuclear capacity (Kept "secret" until recently, and without signing any treaties or allowing inspections), will hold the world hostage and enslaved. In the USA, big cities will turn into civil war zones. USA is not a producer anymore, so they will feel the impact more than any other nation.
werebear1 4 years ago
The deal is, once all possible Arab resistance have been obliterated/genocided (Over 655,000 dead innocent Iraquies up till 2005) and the USA's mega-fortress is installed, and Israel has stolen enough land from Palestine and their neighbors, and Iran has been attacked and their oil taken, the Central Banks/Stock market will trigger the "Grand depression". Israel will be in control of the world's oil supply and their "biblical prophesy" will be fulfilled.
werebear1 4 years ago
I totally agree, and I named earlier on a list of the Lobbies who pushed for the war, and most of them where Jewish Lobbies. I am well aware of groups of Jewish people who do not support Israeli policies or the war as I am part of a few of them. Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein and Israel Adam Shamir are amongst the best. It isn't anti-semitic to point out the obvious Israeli involvement. Not doing so is covering up. I won't be an accomplice of criminal acts of such or any magnitude.
werebear1 4 years ago
Yes not all Jews are Semites, not all Zionists are Jews, not all, not all Jews support the current Israeli administration and many Jews are outspoken critics of the Bush policies in the Middle East. Your problem isn't with the Jews its with corporations that continue to reap huge profits from this war. Follow the money....
cabinweasel 4 years ago
Anti-Semite, and the miss-use and abuse of the word. Over 85% of the Jews in Palestine/Israel are of Eastern Russian (Ashkenazi) origin, therefore they don't count as Semites as they are not part of any of the Semite groups. This also implies that 85% is claiming ownership of a land their ancestors have never been to. Arabs are Semites, so hating Arabs would make you an anti-Semite.
werebear1 4 years ago
hello cabinweasel
I should have used the simple and more general term Zionist to include Jews as well as Christian and non-religious supporters. I promise to be more clear on my next postings. I must also clarify the Jewish pro-Israel lobbies where the most numerous and aggressive in pushing for the war, hence the redundancy on my previous comment.
werebear1 4 years ago