Christian Radio Host Calls Back: Proof Of God - TAG Debate Matt Slick & Matt Dillahunty (3)

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Christian Radio Host Calls Back: Proof Of God - TAG Debate Between Matt Slick & Matt Dillahunty (3/5): Arguing about the existence of God (The Atheist Experience #593 with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris).

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Link to last week's show (Matt Slick's first call): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot5DMSMYRWI

Matt Slick's Transcendental Argument for the Existence of God: http://www.carm.org/secular-movements/atheism/transcendental-argument-existen...

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[yatter1]

I´m really impressed with Matt´s command of logic, the radio guy hasn´t the first clue

[ParasiteS27]

this is the very simple and basic argument of "If a tree falls but no ones around to hear it, does it make a sound" the obvious answer is yes, it still makes a sound. This idiot is trying to say it wouldn't make a sound.

[BrokenBard]

Matt Dillahunty just proved he has a far greater grasp of philosophy than Matt Slick.

[Slanguaj]

@knowone11111 Spider-man just is. Superman just is... and you know what, they're more moral than God. You don't know what a logical fallacy is.

[RebelWrestler45]

@ParasiteS27 The question though, is how do you define 'sound'; the conceptualization of 'sound' is contingent upon a recipient/interpreter; and in that case the tree does not make a 'sound', because the concept of 'sound' requires an entity to 'hear' it. If you define sound as vibrations passing through a medium, as I would, then of course the tree makes the sound. This is the briar patch that Matt Slick has fallen into.

[autopsy87]

matts on top of his shit man. and im not talkin matt slick

[YaleBreaker]

The logical absolutes aren't conceptual. They are a state of reality, our concepts of which are conceptual.

In the same way that if we can conceive of an apple, then the apple isn't conceptual, our CONCEPT of the apple is.

God, this debate gives me a headache.

[YaleBreaker]

If I write a note on a piece of paper, and all minds cease to exist, does that note cease to have writing?

To put it another way, Slick is claiming that because "noise" is subjective, so is "sound".

[McTaggStar]

This is why I'm not a philosophy major anymore.

[ODaemienE]

@ParasiteS27 He is making the True, yet erroneous argument that Sound is contingent upon someone to Hear it. The physics which dictate what happens when a tree falls still exists, but the Concept of sound would not. If one wishes to term preassure waves as sound, then, of course, the tree has made a sound, but if one terms it as requiring someone to hear it, then no sound was made.

[knowone11111]

Dillahunty says that things, "don't exist". that's a logical fallacy. EVERYTHING exists whether we know it or not. if it didn't, there wouldn't be existence. God just IS and we finite creatures have a problem with this.

[tristan9812]

Wow this was the worst episode of A.E ever!