The Effect of a 'Just War' - Shane Claiborne

Revolutionary author Shane Claiborne offers his opinion on violence, victims, genocide, the holocaust and the measures the church should have executed to help prevent such atrocities.

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[EdFreshwater]

Can you love your enemies while dropping bombs on them?

Grace and peace

[Skate4it24]

@jescarpita I would like a Scripture reference that says we are commanded to defend the weak and defenseless with violence before you say we are instructed to. I'm not trying to be mean, but I hear this all the time and I have yet to be shown a passage of Scripture mandating Christians to fight for other people who cannot defend themselves with violence. In fact, Peter himself tried to defend Jesus (which seemed to be right since Jesus was defenseless and innocent) yet he rebuked Peter.

[DragonTalkShow]

@DS6FILMS still doesn't promote violence to defend any of those people. Those verses completely agree with Shane Claiborne's larger main message of loving the poor and oppressed and standing for their rights, NOT killing other people for them.

[NextStarfish]

Love this - used this video in a blog post on Nextstarfish

[DS6FILMS]

@Skate4it24 Brother, I'm very glad you asked that. Matthew 25:34-46 is one of the best described verses in scripture that should be practiced amongst people. Psalm 82:3... Proverbs 31:9... there are many more. I just have to remember where some of them are.

[NixonisLord]

What a freak!

[swarmis]

@TheBatteredTruth My mistake, the verse I meant was Psalm 82,3-4. Please provide a pacifist commentary for Psalm 144. Also Matt 18:6 provides some strong words for a pacifist. Matt 5:9 doesn't oppose self defense, in my opinion it validates it. If someone were to break into your house and attempt to murder your children, would it be wrong to defend them even if it meant inflicting harm on the attacker? In this example, inflicting harm on the attacker is restoring peace.

[TheBatteredTruth]

Psalm 83, 3-4 says, and i quote They devise crafty schemes against your people; they conspire against your precious ones. '"Come," they say, "let us wipe out Israel as a nation. We will destroy the very memory of it's existence."

I hate to break it to you buddy, but that is not a biblical defense for Justwar. This Psalm is talking as the enemies of Israel, ie, the world, and how they planned to use violence to DESTROY God's work. But i can give you dozens that oppose justwar. Like Matthew 5:9

[ManassehZerubbabel]

Why are you all looking for righteous conduct from a worldly organization?

The U.S. military, and the U.S. government, are of this world.

Respect them, but don't be a part of them, and don't place your confidence in them.

Jesus Christ is Lord.

[swarmis]

@Skate4it24 Psalm 83;3-4

[swarmis]

Jesus is the Yahweh of the O.T, and he is the same yesterday, today, and forever. We must glaze over more than half of the Bible to conclude that Jesus was a pacifist(someone who denounces all forms of violence for any reason). Psalm 83;3-4 "Defend the poor and fatherless. Do justice to the afflicted and the needy, deliver the poor and needy, rid them out of the hand of the wicked." Psalm 144"Blessed be the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war,and my fingers for battle." Motive is key...