Where does profit come from? pt 1 of 2
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Lol in Addendum, it claims that the United States is a socialist country XD
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you look like a cool guy to smoke one with
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Thanks for preaching Proverbs 14:23
If you are working hard and not enjoying the fruit of your labor (profit) it means that (companies) are stealing it from you in the form of exploitation, Governments are stealing it from you in the form of taxes and debasing the currency, banks are stealing it from you in the form of interest and fractional reserve lending or you are stealing it from your future in the form of reckless and foolish living.
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@SomeoneCrazy2 (cont) And now, if you take into account, that in socialism, production would even rise: You could simply go into a store and take what you need (maybe you would be voting on products or completing surveys on the internet, in order for demand to be better measured - just an idea of mine). Don't think like there's going to be a shortage of everything.
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@dogbreath34 What if you don't have any money? Take food, for example. We are already now producing more than enough to feed the entire planet. Yet, 16,000 children starve every year. Why is that? Because there is no profit in feeding them. Corporations rather throw out food than give to people who are starving. Let's pretend that in socialism, production wouldn't go up: There would still be enough for everyone, but this time, everybody would actually have enough to eat. (cont)
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Yes and who decides what any of us needs? I for one don't want anyone telling me what I need or don't need. If I need something bad enough I'll pay money to buy it, not apply to some workers committee to decide if my need is justified.
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@dogbreath34 No, the evil in capitalism is that capitalist profits are made through the exploitation of the working class, and that those who work own nothing, and those who own anything don't work. And no, it would not be better if we "just let a monopoly of some sort do away with any competition". It would be better if the means of production were owned collectively by the working class, and production would be for need rather than for profit.
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So the evil in capitalism is it forces people to compete with one another to produce products at the lowest possible cost with the highest possible value. How much better it would be if we just let a monopoly of some sort do away with any competition and let the monopolist set prices. Naturally the consumer is forgotten man in this line of thinking.
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Capitalist need illegal salve labor to grind working peoples wages down. this is why the USA will never stop the endless supply of illegals.
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THE CAPITALISTS HAS TO SELL HIS COMMODITIES TO GET RICHER AND THIS BENEFITS THE WORKING CLASS WHO NOW HAS AN ABUNDANCE OF PRODUCTS THAT CAME ABOUT BY THE PRODUCTIVE CAPITAL AND LABOR OF THEMSELVES.
Do you have a video yet that demonstrates that only labor creates value? That seems to be the underlying assumption for Marx but I have not seen that supported.
Benwoodruff 1 year ago
@Benwoodruff. Well that is the topic of my law of value series- still not complete. You might try the Fetishism video (which I guess you already saw) or video 4:Value. Or you might wait till I get around to the "Value and Price" video. I suppose that you are maybe conflating value and price. Many things affect prices and there are different types of prices: day-to-day, long-run, etc. Marx's that value is what is being measured by price, yet there are many factors that mediate this relationship.
brendanmcooney 1 year ago
And if and when we completely automate an industry, say agriculture, (personal, automated farms in everyone's backyard), value will not be produced because no value was produced?
We went over this in the comments of your other video. Labor is productive, yes.. but labor's productivity is multiplied by capital. Capital is a productivity multiplier. Thus the capital is integral to the process and saying otherwise is nothing less than idiocy.
ijust1 1 year ago
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yes, automated industries produce no value. They appropriate value in exchange.
Re. capital multiplying productivity: This is true in physical terms but not in value terms. It is important to understand the difference between use-value and value.
brendanmcooney 1 year ago