Greek Identity Problems

Are Arvanites or Chams Greek? YOU DECIDE


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[dpjaexp]

The Greek boy of African descent in the fustanella in this video is no different from Odhise, the Albanian boy chosen by his classmates and teachers for the same type of honor in 2004. Albanians or Greeks posting violent screeds about racial purity on YouTube from comfortable chairs in the US exhibit contempt for universal human rights, American values, our democratically-elected President, and his family, whose honor I would defend tooth and nail, besa-besen. Shame.

[Pirrothecham]

@dpjaexp Odise Cenaj and the African boy unfortunatly did not and do not have the full privileges of being Greek citizens. IT is mainly neo-Greeks that boast about racial purity, and it is most of them that post crap that's symptomatic of a sickness known as ancestoritis. This video is not meant to demean anyone but 2 respond to the contradictory mentality of Modern Greeks, who discriminate immigrants and mainly Albanians who almost always sacrificed their blood for them 2 claim Hellenism today.

[dpjaexp]

As an American of Albanian descent, I believe that the integration and assimilation of newcomers is part of human evolution. I see it in my own family. My third generation cousins in America are all half-Albanian and: half Irish, Italian, Greek, Lebanese, French-Canadian, English, Polish, or Puerto Rican. I place my bets for the future of Europe on kids like that little fustanella-clad boy at the end of this presentation. They're far stronger than you perverse, ignorant racists will ever be.

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS I'll say one thing and you just think about it. The most efficient in assimilating others, Albanians (you call them arvatines) Vlach or Slavs was the religion. The orthodox church did a very good in making them all Greeks, in the eyes of the state, The same thing did during the Ottoman Empire, just as ottomans did with moslems. The church is no longer in the affairs of the state, at least theoratically, her influence is weakening. I noticed you cursing less, it is a good sign...

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS You can call me anything you like, anything. i promise you i will not recipricate. A whole region speaks Albanian, not one, the whole Chameria. You can call it north Epirus, or even antartica for all I care. Now analize you comment. Passion is talking, not reason. If you'll send me anywhere, you just do it Hercules. Doing is better than talking. "Greece above all" is a racist statement, Hitler said the same thing: Deutschland uber alles! We know what happened to him and Germany.....

[KRONOSELLAS]

@1ngatirana OK YOU THINK THAT IF SOMEONE SPEAKS ALBANIAN HE IS AN ALBANIAN. WHEN WE WILL COME TO THE NORTH I PROMISE TO YOU TO SPEAK YOU ALBANIAN. BUT YOU BET SOMETHING , THAT IT WILL BE THE LAST WORDS THAT YOU WILL HEAR. UNDERSTAND ? TURKISH ALBANIAN? WE WILL SEND YOU TO YOUR TURKISH BROTHERS, BECAUSE NORTH EPIROS IS GREECE, ZITO I XIMARA, ZITO I ELLAS, GREECE ABOVE ALL!!! THE DAY WILL COME......

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS Name calling with me does not work, I assure you. You can experiment it anyway you like it, but it if you will have the success you are looking for I do not know. You can only try. I wish I could learn greek. I bet it is a beautiful language, just as Albanian is for me. One more thing about the name of places: there are cities and towns all over USA called Athens. Would you say it is greek land or greek influence? Are you able toget the point?

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS You are so passionate in cursing because even you doubt it. An argument stands or falls on its own merit, not by yelling or cursing. You well know that Arvanites speak a different language because they aren't greeks. Why would they speak albanian when that language was not even written?? You know

that the fiercest fighters against the ottomans were not greeks but arvanites, many of which tried to be more greek that even the greeks. Watch a documentary SKAI 1821 then curse again.

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS I dismiss the sexual opening of a man that in rage likes to f... another. I can't find Albanian manuscript becasue it was not a written language. It was only greek and latin written then. Would you thing then in greek you would write for the benefit of Albanians??? Think about it!! Now since the language could benefit a people so greatly it was the reason that the greek church did whatever it could do to stop albanian from being written. Kristo Negovani was killed for it!!

[KRONOSELLAS]

@1ngatirana FUCK YOU TURKISH ALBANIAN, JANISSARY, NORTH EPIROS AND ARVANITES ARE GREEK, ONLY IF YOU FIND ONLY ONE, ONLY ONE ANCIENT INSCRIPTION IN ANCIENT ALBANIAN THEN YOU CAN SAY THAT NORTH EPIROS IS YOURS. BARBERIAN LEARN GREEK IF YOU WANT TO READ THE WORDS IN THE ANCIENT MONUMENTS OF NORTH EPIROS OTHERWISE YOU ARE A STRANGER ON NORTH EPIROS SOMETHING LIKE TURKS, IN CONCLUSION LEARN GREEK OTHERWISE YOU ARE CONQUERORS. ABOVE ALL GREECE TURKISH ALBANIANS

[1ngatirana]

@KRONOSELLAS Well said, they must learn the language of the country they live in. It goes for anyone. I like the fact you recognize the reality, away from name calling or cursing. Tosk or gegh, cham or kosovar, albanian from macedonia or montenegro are all albanians. Being weaker than the neighbours is the reason they live in different countries and all of them border Albania. You call it north epiros and I call it the southern Albania. On that we have different views, but it's okay..

[KRONOSELLAS]

@1ngatirana ΤΗΕ 15% OR MORE OF THE PUPILS OF GREEK SCHOOLS ARE ALBANIANS, CHILDREN OF ALBANIAN IMMIGRANTS. THEY KNOW VERY GOOD GREEK (WITH PRONUNCIATION). THEY NEED TO LEARN GREEK BECAUSE HERE GREEKS ARE MAJORITY. IF I NEED TO GO TO WORK TO ALBANIA I WILL NEED TO LEARN ALBANIAN. WHEN ALBANIANS CAME TO THE SOUTH (NORTH EPIROS) THEY CAME A LOT AND BECAME MAJORITY. AND THEN BE DONE A LOT OF WEDDINGS. HERE IN GREECE A LOT OF COMMON SURNAMES WITH TOSKS.

[1ngatirana]

@1ngatirana ...it is SKAI 1821 instead....