Leb wohl, du kühnes herrliches Kind, Rene Pape, 31 August 08
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@mboschm That's the Siegfried-motif, followed by Wälsungenliebe-motif.
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Which is the Leitmotif in 2:38? It also appears in Sigfriedsruf.
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@serRudyll I find very interesting how he uses the Entagung letimotiv here. Wotan is forced to renounce his daughter if he is to preserve the existing order of the gods. By using the same love-renouncement leitmotiv introduced by Alberich, the music mirrors how this renouncement is not that different to Alberich's renouncement of love in order to gain riches. In both cases they have a choice and choose to renounce love (which is not done lightly, hence the tragic feel of the leitmotiv).
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@serRudyll : this is the "Entsagungs-Motiv" (renounciation to love). It is first heard in Rheingold when Alberich renounces to love in order to obtain the gold. One of the most beautiful motives of the Ring, indeed...
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What is the oboe motiv at 8:30 called (or what does it represent)? It's one of the most beautiful leitmotivs in the ring.
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I've seen all the great Wotans everywhere...and Pape is right up there near the top. A wonderful singing actor.
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IMO René Pape is what Wagner expected for Wotan: a "hoher Baß ", with easy bottom and top notes (and, of course, strong medium sounds). But he is, nevertheless, a true bass, not a "Heldenbariton"!
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Beautiful. Such a warm, noble and velvety voice. I hope he'll do it on stage too. I like human, gentle Wotans best, and he seems one.
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4:10 and on: I always burst literally into tears at this passage, when the motive (I think it is Brünnhildes Liebesmotiv, the most beautiful motiv in the whole Ring) increases, because it's so incredibly beautiful. Just divine - music from other spheres
wurstgitarre 2 years ago 10
@84Ulysse Thanks! It'll be a while before I've unraveled the whole web of ideas and motives that is the Ring, and I'm glad it is that way. Still so much to discover...
serRudyll 1 year ago 3