Knowing the exact moment to hit a spladle, how to execute it perfectly, and sticking it till the pin isn't just a fluke accident that anybody could randomly hit their first day wrestling.
Tricking somebody into a spladle is no different than tricking somebody to hit a double when you're ready to sprawl into a front headlock. He won the match by out-smarting and out-wrestling his opponent. Stop trying to make excuses for him.
@ACN9nty While Kelly used spladles often, he's good with other moves; INCREASE the situation; many wrestlers with a couple big moves are NOT better; losing big, looking for the rare position to "pull it off". That means they are just better in that situation; their shortcut ends the match. So your hand was raised, that means you were always better? Forever? One move-- actually FEEL like a champ? It's cheap. If they know your slick move, can beat you at the other techniques. NOW what? Good luck.
@tsirtsis2534 It's a controversial thing though, I wouldn't take the pin out of it, because that's part of the game we've known for so long, but we shouldn't ignore those questions so quickly. Pinning holds like the spladle are done after looking for the opportunity; can't be forced or worked into it. So if your opponent doesn't offer the position, you're out of luck unless you are better in other ways too. With a K.O. the person can't continue; the pin... their fine, but the match ends.
@Crpsheep Believe me, you couldn't hold Penrith's shoulder blades down with pure strength for the pin if you were his size, that year. That spladle doesn't require much strength; it's timing, leverage, strength and muscle endurance. Headlocks, etc. require more, but with technique. AND no, the pin doesn't show who's always better. THAT move, THAT moment, would be an opportunity, not a guarantee. We see it with other matches all the time. Sometimes they trick someone, other times they don't.
Coach Kelly was my high school coach...he is AWESOME! Taught me about wrestling and how to be a man....btw...he would kick my a** all the time in practice
part of being the better wrestler is learning from mistakes and outsmarting your opponent, and bill kelly did just that in this match proving that we was the better wrestler of the two. its winning when it matters most that proves who the real champion is.
@TruthandJustice101 thats like saying if a boxer is getting his ass kicked and throws a haymaker and knocks the other guy out that he still loses cuz he got his ass kicked the whole bout... the pin has been in wrestling since it was created and taking it out would make absolutely no sense for the sport and for team points
@TruthandJustice101. Yeah, in this match it would have been the guy who won 7-3 after a takedown and three nearfall points from a 3-2 defecit. Who forged your transcript?
I showed this move to my brother when he had to wrestle a takedown machine first round of Districts, and he was losing 9-1 in the second period, and he hit it and got the pin! Too bad he lost second round.
@abbeykroeter
Knowing the exact moment to hit a spladle, how to execute it perfectly, and sticking it till the pin isn't just a fluke accident that anybody could randomly hit their first day wrestling.
Tricking somebody into a spladle is no different than tricking somebody to hit a double when you're ready to sprawl into a front headlock. He won the match by out-smarting and out-wrestling his opponent. Stop trying to make excuses for him.
Crpsheep 3 months ago
@ACN9nty While Kelly used spladles often, he's good with other moves; INCREASE the situation; many wrestlers with a couple big moves are NOT better; losing big, looking for the rare position to "pull it off". That means they are just better in that situation; their shortcut ends the match. So your hand was raised, that means you were always better? Forever? One move-- actually FEEL like a champ? It's cheap. If they know your slick move, can beat you at the other techniques. NOW what? Good luck.
abbeykroeter 3 months ago
@tsirtsis2534 It's a controversial thing though, I wouldn't take the pin out of it, because that's part of the game we've known for so long, but we shouldn't ignore those questions so quickly. Pinning holds like the spladle are done after looking for the opportunity; can't be forced or worked into it. So if your opponent doesn't offer the position, you're out of luck unless you are better in other ways too. With a K.O. the person can't continue; the pin... their fine, but the match ends.
abbeykroeter 3 months ago
@Crpsheep Believe me, you couldn't hold Penrith's shoulder blades down with pure strength for the pin if you were his size, that year. That spladle doesn't require much strength; it's timing, leverage, strength and muscle endurance. Headlocks, etc. require more, but with technique. AND no, the pin doesn't show who's always better. THAT move, THAT moment, would be an opportunity, not a guarantee. We see it with other matches all the time. Sometimes they trick someone, other times they don't.
abbeykroeter 3 months ago
Coach Kelly was my high school coach...he is AWESOME! Taught me about wrestling and how to be a man....btw...he would kick my a** all the time in practice
prodigygeneral5 1 year ago
part of being the better wrestler is learning from mistakes and outsmarting your opponent, and bill kelly did just that in this match proving that we was the better wrestler of the two. its winning when it matters most that proves who the real champion is.
ACN9nty 1 year ago
@TruthandJustice101 thats like saying if a boxer is getting his ass kicked and throws a haymaker and knocks the other guy out that he still loses cuz he got his ass kicked the whole bout... the pin has been in wrestling since it was created and taking it out would make absolutely no sense for the sport and for team points
tsirtsis2534 1 year ago
@TruthandJustice101. Yeah, in this match it would have been the guy who won 7-3 after a takedown and three nearfall points from a 3-2 defecit. Who forged your transcript?
rubeclone44 1 year ago
@TMullins123 you wrestled in college and dont know what a spladle is?
Rightwingman09 1 year ago
I showed this move to my brother when he had to wrestle a takedown machine first round of Districts, and he was losing 9-1 in the second period, and he hit it and got the pin! Too bad he lost second round.
hotzpizza10 2 years ago