Liam Neeson Unveiling The Michael Collins Statue
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@BryantFinlay to compare the two situations is glib. India had a mass population, considerable distance and a different standing in time. It was easier for the Brits to leave india because the Irish Free State had already departed.
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liams a top man
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@thelastgreenelf I doubt he was involved. Collins was a man who used violence for strategic purposes, which the killing of Wilson did not achieve. Anyway, it is not easy for me on how to view Michael Collins. On the one hand, he used violence that may well have been necessary to achieve independence. On the other hand, there is no doubt that much of the violence was murder. The way I look at it is that both the British and Irish conducted campaigns of brutality to seek their ends. It's sad...
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@BryantFinlay Why he was killed & who ordered it is up for debate. After only seeing the Wikipedia page on Wilson, there's speculation that Collins ordered it or someone else absurdly trying to unite Irish nationalists together did it (it was 2 weeks after the Anglo-Irish treaty vote). The idea Collins was involved doesn't make sense to me, as it served no purpose & a looming civil war preyed on his mind, I'd suspect. Last thing he would've wanted was the British up in arms.
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@thelastgreenelf I can understand that part, but what I don't understand is why Henry Wilson was murdered at his home in London. That served no purpose whatsoever.
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@BryantFinlay The issue as I understand it is this: Thanks to political detectives, the British could have easily quashed any effort by the IRA, including guerrilla campaigns against the Army, because they had so much intelligence gathered on the members of the IRB, the Volunteers and Sinn Fein. Collins went after the detectives because the result was the hamstringing of the Army. The detectives were key in stopping the Irish & their deaths were key in stopping the British.
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I have been reading about the Irish potato famine and how Britain played on its fiddle while Ireland burned. One can understand why Collins was so pissed off at the British, to say the least.
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Fuck the IRA.
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Not a bad speech by Liam Neeson! I loved the part where he used Collins as a means of his recovery. He should speak more.
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@Paudie223 Make that over 1,000,000 dead in Afghanistan alone.
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@RichardElden Bro, listen, I seriously doubt that Michael Collins intended things to happen the way they are now. He believed in freedom and you have to give him credit for that.
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Now I see why Neeson's home town of Ballymena refused to honour his achievements. I wasn't aware that he was an IRA supporter, The murderers of innocent men women and children. Many shot to death in their own homes, in front of their family and children or tortured and cut to pieces. It seems when push comes to shove how the majority of the bold fenian men in the north have a soft spot for the glamour of it all. Maybe at one time there was a cause, but not now. Shame on him.
truthbetoldni 10 months ago
@truthbetoldni from reading your comment you appear to not know irish history very well...most Irish people would identify Michael Collins as a national hero - no where in this video does he praise the Provisional IRA and even if he had we are now in peace times.
godbrother10 10 months ago 4
@godbrother10 I didn't mention Provisional IRA. Must people in Northern Ireland see all republicans who use or hide behind murder torture and terror are far from heroes. The Omagh Bomb was in peace time. The young catholic police constable blown to pieces in his driveway two weeks ago. Tell his family it is peace time. Eire has no interest in northern taigs or prods. Now the brits own the country after the bail outs.
truthbetoldni 10 months ago
@truthbetoldni The current so-called dissidents can hardly be referred to as "Republicans" - they are thugs and gangsters trying to further their own ends, not the cause of Irish unification - Liam Neeson certaintly has no support for these groups and neither do any sensible minded Irishmen and women. To suggest that the actions of Michael Collins can be equated to the actions currently being commited shows your lack of understanding.
godbrother10 10 months ago 13