Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free part 4

What does 1 Timothy 2:11-15 mean? This 3rd DVD of a 4 DVD set called "Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free?" goes through this difficult passage verse by verse. It is a thought provoking and thorough work through this tough passage and will open your eyes to some things that you may only have been confusing before.

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[solidust23]

Judgement requires punishment, no one is punishing you or me, but God will chastise us so that we will get on the right track. but if we refuse our hearts will harden and then read Romans chapter 1..... i am hear to help you.

[inhistime2007]

@solidust23 Judgment does not require punishment. Judgment means to act as a judge; pass judgment. When you speak about someone's heart or you say that someone is "ursurping" the gospel or say that one is making God's word as a "business", this is acting as a judge.

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 When a person commitd adultry they passed judgement by stoning the person, so again no one is judging you. we will be judge by God. You might say that i am condeming you,by use of words, but judge requires punishment, but niether am i condeming you. i am simply telling you that what you are teaching, the bible calls false doctrines. it will be your choice to obey the bible.i cant convince you as you can see. "he that hath an ear let him hear what the word says unto the churches".

[inhistime2007]

@solidust23 Again, judgement does not require punishment. The Bible never says that women teaching men is a "false doctrine" neither does it list women teaching men as a sin. No list of sin mentions the teaching of God's truth by women. You have placed yourself in the position of judge without evidence.

[mistamoon1]

@solidust23 Keep defending scripture brother. To God be the Glory, lets pray for our sister. I believe that men and women are equal however our ROLES are DIFFERENT. Unfortunately, Preaching and Pastoring, has been seen as a position of power and authority, as apposed as a position of service and sacrifice, so in return women want to "fight for their right" to preach. This is in large part due to the infiltration of the feminist movement into our Churches. God bless

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 the word of god has already judged, and we are all guilty. if you think you are not remember that our righteuosness is like filthy raggs to God. you should go around saying "dont Judge", simply so to stop beleivers from defending the word of God. this is blasphemus. Christ said if we love him then we will keep his commandment. as far as i can see you just want to make money by changing the word of God in selling your DVD. what gives anyone the right to make money from the bible?

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 by the way you have knowledge yet you teach error with knowledge, and these are the latter times... like i said it does not mean your salvation is gone cuz you missed unerstand, or you do it purposely beacuase of the feminist movement. people wll utter what is in their heart if the bible say dont do something and we do it, then we have to ge these things out of our heart.

[inhistime2007]

@solidust23 I don't disagree with Paul at all. You misquote him. For example Paul doesn't use the plural "women" and he doesn't say that the reason he is stopping her is because man was made first. He adds some very important information that you completely missed. If you take only a part of what the Word says and then use that to judge, you are the one who will be responsible to God for not paying attention to all that He has said.

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 A man should not think himself as being better then a womn nor a women to a man. christians obey this commandment simply out of obediance. you should tell people to disobey the word of God. the word of God is not the US constitution where only lawyers can understand it.God made it so that the dumbest pesron can understand. but you think that you are like a lawyer and will somehow interpret better then what God said as if he doesnt know how to talk to us. its not working my friend.

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 You spent all your energy teaching false things and you have no clue that the word of God will soon disappear beacuse we miss used it for prophit and gain, or to lift up our sinful hearts to vanity such as your gospel of feminism. and on top of that you want to sell dvds and make money. the word of God is free, when will people realize that. do you know what free is?

[solidust23]

@inhistime2007 Many male preachers act as if they are so holy procaliming that a women shoul not preach, if they have such coarage then they should also go on and talk about Tithing and how its is unbiblical.but they will not because they run church as a buisness not as a sheppard. there is no tithing but to the tribe of levite, and then the money goes to widows and orpahns. in Revelations Christ says he will remove the candle stick if we do not repent, but you rather teach about women preaching