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[MrRamboseven]

Bobo577, if the Book of Judaism is the Book of the Christians (O.T), why doesn't the Holy Bible include Judaism's teachings such as Monotheism (no Trinity here)? If it were do, well, it won't... it will be confusing! Also, see Eph 4:8 and compare it with the Psalms verse on Bible.cc- are they the same? Mormonism added... but didn't Christianity?

Islam IS the Truth!

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven Also, since you keep using that different Bible argument, I'm going to use that against you. Sharon Allen came to believe in Jesus through the TANAKH (Jewish Bible), so therefore, the OT and the TANAKH ARE THE SAME.

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven To top it off, they think Jesus Christ was the spirit brother of Satan. Mormons being a Christian group? I find that absolutely abhorrent.

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven Stop making a distinction between the OT the Jews have and the OT Christians have, they are the same OT, same TANAKH, just a different arrangement of book order. Furthermore, Mormons are not Christians, they are a heretical and apostate group who add books to the Bible, believe that God was created and we are spirit children. They also believe that men can become gods and make children for all eternity if they have been good Mormons.

[MrRamboseven]

Bobo577, search the Scriptures... but how far (Jesus cannot be God etc)? Ask a Jew on the O.T... it's a Christian one (not Jewish). Sharon Allen, well, I, as a Muslim, agree that Jesus is in the O.T (not in Judaism) but the Trinity etc... no. Also, what about the Mormon that also uses the Holy Bible?

Islam IS the Truth!

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven As for a baby going to heaven or hell, I don't know. Jesus said search the scriptures for they bear witness of me. He was referring to the OT which IS the TANAKH and vice versa. A woman called Sharon Allen (Sura Rifka) who was an Orthodox Jew came to faith in Jesus by reading THE TANAKH.

[MrRamboseven]

Bobo577, Judaism, like Islam, knows that God never dies, even for 3 days. Jesus had a gift- God preserves him (even though I do not believe that he died). The Angel of the Lord- what is Judaism's view on this? A baby that goes to Hell because of another- unfair. I mean, what did that baby do (Original Sin)? Plural of Majesty- but Judaism (Unitarians etc) does not have the Trinity. If the O.T is the Jewish Bible= O.T vs N.T and so Jesus could not have claimed Godship.

Islam IS the Truth!

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven There is no evidence of Yahweh using a plural of majesty like Allah, only Unitarians would come to that false conclusion. Jesus said "I am the Way", only he can get away with this if he is God and again the baptism confirms his deity and the Transfiguration of Moses and Elijah, He says at the latter event "This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him".

[bobo577]

@MrRamboseven The way for a Jew to believe in Jesus is to know he is alive. The "angel" who forgave sins, Bring up the verse so I can deal with that. All of us are born as children of wrath from the moment we were born, that's why we do wrong even as a child. As for a baby or child in regards to salvation, I don't know, Only Yahweh knows where they go when they die.

[MrRamboseven]

Bobo577, The Jew, I am sure, is sick of what Christianity did here. Jesus couldn't have said "I am the Way..." (as if God)= he wasn't allowed to.

Islam IS the Truth!