Myles Vs Hoefkens - Homeopathy

Can Homeopathy cure Chlamydia, Migraines, Infertility School phobia, etc? In short NO, in long NOOOOOOOO! Meet Gemma Hoefkens who became a registered homoeopath after she was diagnosed with cancer, tumours in her brain and down her spine. She clames that Homeopthy and Homeopthy alone cured her and not the Radiotherapy, Chemotherapy or the medication she was put on.

Homeopathy Cancer Woman Gemma Hoefkens on BBC Radio Five Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-npGnzTHQMU
1023 - Homeopathy: there's nothing in it
http://www.1023.org.uk/
Gemma Hoefkens Website
http://www.homoeopathysuttoncoldfield.co.uk/

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[powerm1985]

@bandershot Also did you first comment on this vid before you watched it?!

[powerm1985]

@bandershot I am sorry u feel my phd in biochemistry is inferior to a degree in homeopathy. A degree like the one this woman has yet as pointed out in the vid does not know the basics of the subject. The fact is homeopathy does not work and is not physically dangerous. The danger comes from when people use it instead of real medicine instructed by people like yourself.

[Bandershot]

So how do you explain it still being on the market? I mean if its everything you say it is, then why haven't you or somebody been sued for fraud? That's what you're saying, isn't it? That these substances marketed as medicine are inert and have no biological effects, right? So, amidst all your explanations for what it is, why hasn't it been sued an/or prosecuted in a court of law for fraud, and shut down for good? Or do you not have a doctrine of innocent until PROVEN guilty in court?

[powerm1985]

@Bandershot If the best argument you have for homeopathy working is that its sold its a very week one. I walked past a shop the other day with a sign saying that I could buy a crystal for £10 that will flow energy towards me. I have 2 more vids on the subject if you are interested.

[oldsyphilitic]

Science has a long history of debunking what it doesn't understand. I'm sure you can think of many examples yourself. Being a biochemist is no qualification whatsoever for understanding homoeopathy.

Why the use of lots of block capitals with lots of question marks? It suggests an arrogant belief in your own ideology.

I suggest you have a good deal to learn about humility.

[powerm1985]

@oldsyphilitic I would love to know what qualification I require to be able to talk about homeopathy?Also you cant just say "Science has a long history of debunking what it doesn't understand" without giving examples and I want examples in your next post.

Do you see scientists like myself trying to debunk gravity, yawning, pubic hair etc because we do not understand them?..........no

and again why do you think I need to get out more?

Any who its getting late and I am off to bed so ttyl

[powerm1985]

@oldsyphilitic Attempt ?!?!?!? She may be nice but this woman promotes the use of homeopathic medicine for things like Chlamydia, Cancer, Malaria etc. This kind of misinformation can lead to people getting hurt so I sleep well knowing that this vid is on youtube. Also comments like "Steam can be made far more efficient than diesel" shows me what kind of character you are (snaps fingers)

[unassumption]

Cheaper isn't always better.

Not having any food is cheaper than having some food.

Starving is better than eating, from her logic?

[unassumption]

Fuck her for abusing dr / patient confidentiality by saying things her medical records WOULD disprove but they can't release. Those laws should be void the moment someone uses their records to spread lies that threaten other people in desperate situations especially when the dr fucking saved her life.

[sa612136]

Despite how often it is used, this is the first time I have ever seen the chemical structure of vancomycin! wouldn't it be much simpler to just give all our infected patients empiric therapy of water? What if the microbes developed resistance to it?

[Maddin667]

you perfectly described the way it feels to see stupidity resistant to argument and evidence!! Including symptoms like mumbling, hitting tables, ranting and sometimes even crying a little. As a medical student homeopathy hurts twice... (or more)

[invisiblebears]

Robot Chicken represent.



[bobtg]

@powerm1985 I just liked how he asked why homeopathy hasn't been sued for fraud. Or prosecuted in a court of law. That's like asking "if murder is so bad, why hasn't anyone put it in jail?". I mean was he expecting a bottle of sugar pills be put on the dock? I think someone's brain is a bit diluted.

[beswick1306]

thats the most expensive sugar ever

[Bandershot]

Myles (MP) claims2 know more about the Hoefkens case than she& her doctors do! The chemo docs say they had done all they could do, so Gemma left their care & came back cured after being treated w/homeopathy. But MP twists this around2mean it was the chemo that worked & that she thought the C made her hair fall out. He's doing exatly what he wants to believe she's doing! There r 1000's of cases in which hpathy is cred'd w/curing people of cancer.

Is MP familiar w/the Int'l Journal of Oncology?

[Bandershot]

@powerm1985 Yes, watched it twice & watching the horrible thing a 3rd time.

You say you wouln't get any adivce from Gemma because she reported she a bad reaction from chemotherapy? & that's your 1st point in to discredit her? I've been posting comments here & you've been missing the point on those, too, making assumptions you want to believe. Something's said & you're twisting it to mean what you want it to.

Are you familiar with the Leslie Dan School of Pharmacy at the Univesity of Toronto?

[Bandershot]

@powerm1985 The best argument I have for you is the one that uses science, the process you implicitly claim has more importance than direct observation, personal experience& popular support.

All I've seen from you so far is play "let's make disbelieve," no better than the claims you think you're debunking. All I've seen from you is "pseudoscience." I say "biochemicals" & you say you saw a sign advertising crystals? If you're a real scientist, you'd talk science& ask relevant questions. RSVP!