Debunking Copenhagen: Quantum Consciousness

Part of the "Debunking quantum mind" series. This video looks at the "Copenhagen Interpretation". n.b althought there are many different views within Copenhagen this video focuses on Heisenberg's interpretation. i.e.

"Whatever Heisenberg's motivation, his invention of a unitary Copenhagen view on interpretation, at the center of which was his own, distinctively subjectivist view of the role of the observer, quickly found an audience."
- Found Here

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-copenhagen/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation#cite_note-1


Shrodinger's Cat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrodingers_cat

Berkeley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism#George_Berkeley


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Category:

Education

Tags:

• philosophy
• mind
• consciousness
• bohr
• idealism
• paradox

[seanmPWH]

Why the a priori rejection of dualism?

Your dismissal of a God observer seems arbitrary. I'm not trying to start a fight, just making observations. I find your first argument strong, that's the one about the special qualities ascribed unto the observer.

I've always had a problem with the Copenhagen interpretation for the same reasons Godel & Einstein had, i.e. the superposition state was treated as "unreal" until observation, I believe M-Theory has put the reality in & justified Einstein.

[LordImmolation]

My a priori dismissal of dualism can be found in some other videos; I do not think dualism is a feasible ontology for a whole host of reasons. Occam's razor, the interaction problem, etc.

[ThisOneIsTaken]

Observer doesn't mean someone conscious, it means that the act of taking measurements interferes with what is being measured, just as you can't taste the soup without altering how much of it is in the plate, to make a really dumbed down example. Was reading an actual article on the matter so fucking hard?

[TheTheKRIT]

your not disproving anything, your actually just reinforcing it.

[KTK401]

@JohananRaatz Hey Johanan! Nice to see you here!!!

[KTK401]

This is the worst attempt at refuting the Copenhagen Interpretation I have ever seen!!!!

[KTK401]

@itsbrake He obviously hasn't read "The Emperor's New Mind"or "Shadows of The Mind"!

[itsbrake]

Consciousness changes everything, and you clearly don't really take that into consideration. It's like you are considering conciousness as a rigid, scientific factor, which it most certainly is not. and I apologize, but do you really not having anything better with your time and energy than to "debunk" the quantum mind?

[itsbrake]

@GMSkel he obviously does not understand. He has knowledge, in that he has read books and wiki-hopped all over the net, so he is aware of certain concepts, yet he fails to comprehend them. It seems his logic is primarily dictated by semantics

[boomboom7391]

when you start with a false premise i can not continue viewing anything afterwards

the copenhagen view does not require a conscious observer

fail

[atthehops]

@jonesgerard The Copenhagen view of quantum theory was developed primarily by Bohr and Hesienberg. While it does mention an 'observer' it can be presumed that the observing would not have to not done by a conscious being, it could be performed by a measurement device.

[JohananRaatz]

@LordImmolation What about neutral monism or protophenomenalism? Doesn't that seem to make more sense in regards to the mind/body problem than eliminativism and/or hard AI?