Christian Radio Host Calls Back: Proof Of God - TAG Debate Matt Slick & Matt Dillahunty (2)

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Christian Radio Host Calls Back: Proof Of God - TAG Debate Between Matt Slick & Matt Dillahunty (2/5): Arguing about the existence of God (The Atheist Experience #593 with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris).

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Link to last week's show (Matt Slick's first call): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot5DMSMYRWI

Matt Slick's Transcendental Argument for the Existence of God: http://www.carm.org/secular-movements/atheism/transcendental-argument-existen...

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[tellnet]

Regardless of the semantics used to describe the existence of deities, they continue to remain notoriously non-existent.

[gary031183]

I love how he starts getting bitter towards the end... such a poor loser!

[rpottage]

@jimmyt3411 In other words you can't simply say cause and effect to something that precedes time. If you could you've have to show where God came from anyways.

[rpottage]

@jimmyt3411 The universe is a d-brane within the multiverse and was created by the collision of two p-branes. (m-theory)

Also, time is a dimension of the unierse. Before the big bang time didn't exist thus it is theoretically possible the universe was created by a massive weapon that ignites all the suns in the universe and results in a massive explosion followed by implosion that forces all the matter and energy in the universe together before rapidly expanding again (big bang).

[bailer4life]

@jimmyt3411 This is where you go wildly absurd "is contingent upon an immaterial, omnipotent God"

Not at all, why would you make such a huge assumption?

No one on earth has any definitive idea of how the original dense mass of our universe came to be, but it's almost certainly not the product of an immaterial, omnipotent God.

I think humans should engineer single celled life on a viable planet, just so we can be hailed as gods after 3.5 billion years or so.

[calabiyou]

this is the only caller i've seen in this show how any depth of thought. the others arent even wrong

[AJthemagi]

@jimmyt3411 I suggest you check out modern physics and cosmology. The universe did not need a creator to come into existence. Also, just because something causes something else to happen does not mean that the initial cause "willed" it into existence. And following your logic, God is something and not nothing, therefore, God must also have a cause.

[jimmyt3411]

@tellnet Well the argument is simple really, the universe without a cause is impossible and is contingent upon an immaterial, omnipotent God with a will. Since nothing can only be the cause of nothing, it was not the cause of the universe. If the universe exists, then there was a final cause (God). Last time I checked, the universe exists >.>. Therefore, there was a final cause (God) for its existence.

[MagnusNyborg]

@jimmyt3411 and until someone presents such a theory proving the existence of god, there is no reaosn to believe a god exists.

[tellnet]

@jimmyt3411

Challenging me on the authenticity of imaginary entities whose main claim to fame is ad perpetuum in absentia would be foolhardy.

However, feel free to try.

[jimmyt3411]

The atheist in the red is very smart, I underestimated his ability to reason. I love it how he is at least open minded about the prospect of God. He needs a more to be challenged by a more sophisticated theory proving the existence of God.