Uploaded by LaneCh on Dec 13, 2007
"If God does not control every event, he does not control any event."
Most people who are opposed to the doctrine of God's sovereign election believe it to be an anomaly from Calvin's Institutes and not from Scripture. Mark Kielar and CrossTV shares Scripture that supports the wonderful doctrine of God's election according to his grace. (Rom. 11:5)
(Thanks to Bill Patton for providing these videos and CrossTV for allowing us to post them.)
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(Part of the series "The Sovereignty of God")
A. W. Pink's The Sovereignty of God:
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God does not predict or control both words have supposition possibility of another will.Prediction supposes future events could go two or more ways but God predicts the correct one; No, God ordains all and is at perfect rest.And because God ordains I still live in a subjective reality not knowing His perfect will and act in faith not like a robot.Free will and ordaing faith work from same position of ignorance except ordaining looks to accept God's will while free will hopes to change it.
polopowers1 5 months ago
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@eromhsa1. Explain Romans chapter 9
The5pointsofgrace 6 months ago
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@thatsleepguy God had 2 groups of people before time ,1 to save and 1 not to save God foreknows(loved intimately) His elect in eternity past,these are the ones HE CHOSE to set His salvific love upon,While goats were created for God's eternal plan,they weren't created for salvation,but reprobation and justice.God writes the names of those whom He will save in The Lamb's book of life before the foundation of the world ,the rest weren't written there.Rev 17:8,Eph 1 :4-11
CBALLEN 7 months ago
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''The problem is that man is rebellious & will not die to Sin & be born again''
The Bible tells us that all the natural man can do ,in that state,is evil,man can't even obey God until God first regenerates him unto salvation,we believe only after God has regenerated us.Acts 13:48.... And as many as were appointed to eternal life believed. God appoints all His children to eternal life in eternity past,it's only these(elect) who will believe.
CBALLEN 7 months ago
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It is my belief that YHWH wants ALL to be saved. The problem is that man is rebellious & will not die to Sin & be born again. We must die to Sin & the flesh.
Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
If we do not see ourselves as sinners, then we will never repent ! Of course we must believe as ONLY Jesus Christ can forgive us of Sin & wash us clean.
Praise the LORD Jesus Christ !
Romans1014Preach 7 months ago
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Missionaries that believe the Calvinist way would be an Oxymoron...You are created for heaven or hell and you can do nothing to change that..May G-d have mercy on those false teachers of predestination.
thatsleepguy 8 months ago
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Paul said that God would have "ALL MEN TO BE SAVED" so evidently your idea of what God wills is contrary to Paul's understanding of God's will. If it is totally up to God's will, and God wills all to be saved, then ALL WILL BE SAVED because His will must prevail regardless of man's will! Don't you see how foolish this doctrine of Calvinism is??? But obviously you are wrong because all men WON'T be saved even though God desires it, because all men have a will to either choose or reject His mercy.
Eromhsa1 8 months ago
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ALL CALVINISTS ARE INCREDIBLY IGNORANT AND CAN ONLY COME TO THEIR FOOLISH CONCLUSIONS BY READING CALVINISTIC DOCTRINES! NO ONE EVER COMES TO BELIEVE SUCH A STUPID DOCTRINE BY READING THE BIBLE. IT SEEMS YOU POOR CALVINISTS CAN NEVER EVER TRULY KNOW FOR SURE IF YOU'RE SAVED UNTIL AFTER YOU PERSEVERE TO THE END AND DIE! BUT JOHN SPOKE WITH CERTAINTY WHEN HE WROTE, "BELOVED, NOW ARE WE THE SONS OF GOD..."
Eromhsa1 8 months ago
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Yes, God predestined that ALL who choose to BELIEVE the Gospel will be saved, and that ALL who choose to reject it will be damned. He DID NOT predestine who will believe or reject! This is the only true election spoken of in scripture, that God sovereignly chose to save ONLY BELIEVERS!
Eromhsa1 8 months ago
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the will does not naturally love God... It doesn't even accept the things of God, it is at emnity to God and needs to be changed. By God, by grace, through (the vehicle of) faith, AND THAT (is) NOT OF YOURSELVES it is a gift of God. Do men accept God because they are smarter than others??? NO. That is judging yourself better than another (like the pharisee & the tax collector praying) Understand election, and you will begin to understand grace.
bereansearch 2 years ago 3
In another comment on Youtube, someone said that all Calvinists are insane - but that God must have presdestined them to be insane.
LOL!
I don't agree, but it did crack me up a little.
fruitofspirit 2 years ago 2