Anthony Gregory on Liberals vs Libertarians
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RON PAUL 2012!!!
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@SSTTEEAALLTTHH No argument here. Jefferson was a Founding Father of the United States and of America's libertarian movement.
"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution" - Thomas Jefferson
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master." - George Washington.
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@SSTTEEAALLTTHH The words “progressive” and “progressivism” certainly have meaning, at least to those who created them and advocated their implementation. The words were purposely coined, in part to provide a suitable euphemism. It was deliberate doublespeak, as “progressive” was a more acceptable, less fear inducing alternative for the word “socialism”.
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@jeffersonianideal Libertarianism stemmed directly from the classical liberal movements of the 1600s and 1700s. The foundations of classical liberalism included minimal government, restriction or elimination of imposed taxes, adherences to individual liberties and personal freedoms. Classical liberalism also maintained there should be no government intervention into personal contracts between consenting individuals. This is nothing short of an advocacy for free enterprise.
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Also, progressivism has no inherent meaning, neither does conservatism. It relates to the political climate of the country in which it is set. In the late USSR, stalinists were conservatives, and classic liberals were progressives. Stalinists wanted to cling on to old values and same ol' same ol' while the liberals wanted social and economic reform. Just to illustrate that progressives in one country are conservatives in another
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The government is not your friend. It does not care about you. Thomas Jefferson himself made many hints to anarchism as the ultimate goal of his classical liberalism.
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?"
"I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master."
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You are a moron. Libertarianism never had anything to do with classical liberalism. You free marketeers simply hijacked the word 'libertarian' in the 20th century from left-anarchists (anarcho-communists, socialist libertarians, anarcho-syndicalists, etc.).
Parties like the Libertarian Party are neoliberals.
Just so there's no mincing of meanings here, classical liberalism was at one time, nearly synonymous with libertarianism. Today's liberals have little or nothing in common with classical liberals. Progressivism is merely a gentler sounding word to replace the harsher sounding words, socialism or collectivism. The same applies to conservatism and more recently, neoconservatism. It's all political doublespeak intended to purposely confuse and to maliciously deceive.
jeffersonianideal 7 months ago 15
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH The first one to resort to using the word "moron" in any argument not only concedes any point they are desperately attempting to make but also calls attention to their inability to overcome their inferior, government school education. Classic liberalism is associated with principles such as limited government, individual freedom and yes, free markets. Learning more about both classical liberalism and libertarianism may prompt you to join the cause for personal freedom.
jeffersonianideal 3 months ago 6