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Sarah Palin reignites Culture Wars on Abortion

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In 2000, we elected W. Bush a president who put oil company's interests ahead of caring for creation. We elected a "born-again" president who said he lived by biblical ethics who played the dirtiest political games possible, for instance in the filthy lies his people spread to derail Senator John McCain's presidential primary bid. We elected a "pro-life" Republican Party that did nothing to actually care for the pregnant women and babies they said they were concerned for, but rather took their evangelical and other pro-life followers for granted, and played them for suckers. These Republican "pro-lifers" took us to war needlessly, tortured prisoners and have dishonored America.

The so-called evangelical leadership--Dobson, Robertson, Falwell and all the rest also played the pro-life community for suckers. That way the evangelical leaders could represent themselves as power-brokers to the politicians willing to kowtow to them.

Democrats who would like a clean shot at governing this country well for a few years and who want to shape a better American future, regarding health care, gay rights, women's rights, rights for people of color, foreign policy, the environment, energy policy, a better educational system and a more humane welfare state; had better look hard and honestly at what is unfolding on the Republican side this year post Rick Warren's intervention at Saddleback and after the Palin nomination.

John McCain should not only be behind in the polls he should more or less be nonexistent after the horrendous eight years of Bush misrule. The fact that he is even close hinges on two points: first, our latent racism, which no matter what individuals tell pollsters is playing a part in keeping Obama's lead down. Second, the Palin news cycle, in other words the issue of abortion which simply will not go away.

Palin is a joke candidate only on the ticket as a sop to pro-lifers. End of story.

Progressives need to take a fresh look at abortion. Few countries are as extreme as America. Progressives look to places like France as examples of generous maternal leave and so on. France is hardly anti-woman. And yet France limits abortion rights more than we do. So does Sweden. Even in Great Britain, which has almost as a permissive an abortion law as our own, there is growing debate in Parliament about rolling back the legal date after which abortions can no longer be performed from 23 weeks to 20 weeks. And this UK debate is not fueled by right wing preachers, but by medical science, and human rights ethics.

Roe leaves the door open to very late term abortions. Enter Senator Obama and this year's presidential race. Obama voted once in a state legislature to keep those sorts of late term abortions legal. He had his reasons and the Religious Right has been unfair to him over their branding him as favoring infanticide. But there it is: Obama is being saddled with the abortion albatross instead of being allowed to move on. Here we go again!

And all this is needless. If the abortion laws reflected the will of the people abortion would be legal but limited more than now. That is a fact that every poll shows. Indeed more young people are against abortion than their parents. This won't fade.

Do Democrats really perpetually want to lose elections to keep a small minority of Americans--the pro-choice fundamentalists--happy by keeping abortion legal up to the moment of birth? Is there any good reason, other than the life of the mother, for abortion to be legal after the 12th week of pregnancy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/sarah-palin-its-the-abort_b_123...
Note: Obama's current position on abortion is to limit late term abortions only to instances when the mother's life is at risk.

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  • No it wouldn't be justice. Choosing an unborn organism over people who are here already would be stupid. And if anyone tried to drag the woman out, I would break both of their arms and make sure they pee blood for a month.

    No matter how much you would like to believe that a developing organism is the same as an infant, it will never be true.

  • And another thing, it doesn't matter what most animals do...we're different. We have more self -awareness and a sense of fairness and morality. Animals don't know better, but humans don't have to treat women like things and try to control them.

    People like you are dying out, you'll never succeed. You've already lost, and your old-fashioned views will one day fade into nothing-- along with every last one of you.

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  • @CaptVelocity actualty most mammals have morality sence of fairness and self-awareness. but still, aboriton happens in nature. wolfs when one of the non-alpha females gets pregnant is harased so hard that she loses the baby. this does not happen always but usualy it happens when food is rare. allso if you do it on religius grounds then bible has no proplem with abortion, it actualy commands it in many cases,

  • In a society where abortion is illegal, we would have much less teenage pregnancy. If no one got pregnant when they weren't prepared for a baby, we would not have this problem in the 1st place.

  • Scarborough owned

  • These people are dumb. Capt.velocity is right

  • These guys opinons mean nothing. No one word. They're all Faags and comminist bastards. Water carriers for the super rulers, my relatives. They work for my royalist family an i don't aprove. All liberals are insane an are easily bought. Chris can't think about nothing but the nut sack in his mouth.

  • so warmhearted girl who is searching for a man who would be able to satisfy my needs

  • This woman...retard...is the most divisive tool in America...

    Palin needs to go, or at least all the 65 year olds that praise her, and her lack of intellect.

    AFRICA is a COUNTRY?

  • But what life does it have when it's most important development stages where it learns how to form healthy attachments are spent with the mother hating them. Infants can sense that anger towards them. and if the mother can't take care of them? there's to many kids in orphanages. maybe we should worry about what's already here and now then what might be.

  • They dont deserve rape, but the baby doesnt deserve death either.

  • And it can't be proven that they're people with souls in the development stages. Oh and some them are raped, so your idea of "irresponsibility" is skewed. In any case, saying "clothes your legs" makes you sound like an ass. What, people can't have sex without giving birth just because you don't like it. Men should just use a damn condom and the women should have a pill with them as a pre-caution.

    Honestly, quit trying to shove your religion down everyone's throat.

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