Gloria Allred: If You're Not a Feminist, Then You're a Bigot
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Uploaded on May 20, 2011
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Unless you're for first class citizenship for women, you're "in support of the subordination of women," says the attorney.
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Marian B 1 hour ago
Do you really think that if someone has arguments against your case he's "moving the discussion in a direction that benefit" him ? If the discussion benefits him take it as it is dude, you don't want him saying that you're tanking the discussion in directions that meet your interests, it would be just the same.
Btw you brought this tactic on me too, you're lame, you just don't know how debates work.
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Marian B 1 hour ago
I don't know where you've seen sexism, chauvinism and ignorance in here. But i will tell you this one thing, saying "if you're not a feminist you're a bigot" is as ignorant as saying "if you're not for men rights movement you're a bigot". And if the downvotes don't have anything to do with the actual content of the video, maybe it has something to do with the woman that appears on it in particular, think about it just a bit.
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BingtheLizard 3 hours ago
Wow. So I'm a bigot if I care about an individual despite their gender?
I guess this lady has trouble finding friend material.
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ThatGUY121100 6 hours ago
No, dont dodge my question. yes or no, there are cases where women have more rights than men? - yes. Yes or no, feminism can solve these issues? no it cannot since it ONLY advocates female rights. can an egalitarian approach? -yes. If you cannot see how only caring for your gender is not sexist, then you're dumber than i thought. Feminism was necessary, it is not now.
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ThatGUY121100 6 hours ago
"You providing an example of one that isn't would be the anomaly, not mine." - no, you providing a tribe that holds men and women on equal footing is one anomaly due to evolutionary animal instincts where there was demand for men being the physically superior gender. I can provide cases where tribes have made women, nothing more than sex objects.
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ThatGUY121100 6 hours ago
"so don't tell me it's inherent in our biology to be unequal" - when did i ever say that? quote my exact statement. i never said that. I think men and women should be equal. Im saying historically women have been subordinate which is why feminism used to be necessary, but now its not.
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ThatGUY121100 6 hours ago
Yep, feminism defined: striving for the equality of both genders whilst only focusing on one gender. And yet you cant see how that is sexist. You're arguing with someone who not only agrees that women should be entitled to everything men have (as long as it is earned), yet you cant see my point, which is that being a feminist in this age is to be sexist, simply because there is no gross bias favouring men anymore. women now have more rights.
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ThatGUY121100 6 hours ago
facepalm. "Feminists can make it social taboo by changing the attitudes of people within our society" - so you're striving to stop people (both men and women) from calling girls 'sluts' by making it taboo? You dont think that another derogatory word might take place? just like how people use the word 'gay' against not just homosexuals now? and with 'nigger', people are afraid of being labeled racist. PEOPLE DONT CALL GIRLS A SLUT, just BECAUSE THEYRE FEMALE.
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SnakeSpeech 6 hours ago
I've already answered and explained my answer to your last question to you, and multiple others, multiple times. Don't take me around in circles and try to set me up in false dichotomies that have already been dealt with.
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SnakeSpeech 6 hours ago
No, you're trying to move the discussion in a direction that benefits you. Most early hunter gatherer societies were egalitarian. You providing an example of one that isn't would be the anomaly, not mine. Hunter gatherer societies came before agricultural ones, so don't tell me it's inherent in our biology to be unequal. If that were the case it would have been that way from the start.
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