Riz Khan - North Carolina primary - 07 May 08- Part 1

On Riz Khan we take a look at the latest primaries and what they mean.

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[quixoto]

Nothing's going to change overnight. But we can always try to push it in the right direction. Obama's at least an improvement over the direction this country's been going for the last 8 years... unlike McCain who'll just keep moving in that direction.

[crazycatfguy]

Ron Paul and Obama can be credited with bringing people out of their political apathy and participating in the process again. Ron Paul introduced the constitution to people who don't understand it. A whole new generation are interested in the constitution and made them look at political candidates based on their adherence to the constitution instead of the Rev Wright type bullshit they will get from the media.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

im voting for a candidate that is supporting policies that i support, im not using my voting power to work against my own interests. the question is not who is going to win this election because all the "electable" candidates are pro-corporate and anti-citizen. obama does not even present a possibility of ending the war on terror and would attack iran as readily as mccain. people are going to have to start somewhere if they ever want control of their democracy, its a step by step process.

[quixoto]

Wasn't that the plan Ralph Nader had in 2000? Boycott the normal 2-Party system by voting Green? It didn't work then and I don't think it's gonna work this time.

But whatever, man. Vote or don't vote however you want. I have no illusions about the power of my own vote, and you should not have any illusions about the power of your non-vote.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

its as simple as this: if you want a new direction, obama, clinton, and mccain are not your candidates. if the democrats (or the republicans for that matter, which should be obvious) refuse to support a new direction, let them pay the price by not voting for them and supporting candidates who want a new direction. either the democrats will change their policies to keep up with public opinion, or they should be swept into the pages of history.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

if this happens, the democrats will have to support policies that the public supports, rather than disguising their intentions with ambiguous, but empty rhetoric about "change" and "withdraw" (which really means permanent occupation through different tactics). if people want a new direction and change that is going to end the war and help the american people, they have to fight for it and refuse to support corporate candidates, whether they are republican or democrat.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

if people let the democrats know that they will not get their votes with only smiles, subversive speeches, media support, and saturation advertisements maybe the democrats will begin to support major candidates who address the will of the public and the policies they desire.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

im not saying that, all im saying is that there will be no new direction if people continue to pursue their legitimate calls for a new direction through corporate democrats and republicans. democracy takes hard work on a regular basis to organize and pressure politicians if they are not addressing the issues, rather than just voting for a corporate candidate every four years; and sticking with the "lesser of the evils" is wasting voting power and giving legitimacy to unpopular policies.

[quixoto]

So what? You're saying there's no new direction from anyone?  Great. Yay, hopelessness.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

im not supporting ron paul or obama, they both service corporate interests and not the people. i think we need "change" in the sense that we will discontinue the destructive policies bush has started. despite obama's generalized and confusing rhetoric, he is an avowed supporter of bush policies with his actions (and even makes few meaningful commitments if you dissect his rhetoric). the whole point is that obama is just more of the same, just more mild than bush; no new direction from obama.

[quixoto]

Revolution is not what you're going to get with Obama, I'll grant you that. However, you will expect change. With Ron Paul you're just going to get bitterness and frustration over people (like me, yes) who don't understand your coalition and won't join it because they think you guys are a bunch of crackpots.

At least by jumping on the Obama bandwagon you might have a chance to influence his opinion with your agendas and causes. Give it a shot. I bet he's open.

[quixoto]

And, repeat this with me:

Ron. Paul. Will. Not. Win. In. 2008.

I'm sorry. That's just the fact.

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here about he corporate culture of American society. I know about it. We all know about it. This is the offshoot of Capitalism: Neo-Liberalism in its effect here. What you're suggesting is some kind of absolute dismantling of the system. If that's what Ron Paul wants, that's why he's getting no support.