Radiohead - House of Cards - Peak Oil = Peak Food

Peak Oil, Peak Food, Peak Population, Peak Phosphorous, Peak Water, Peak Food, PEAK EVERYTHING

Richard Heinberg
Thom Yorke
Radiohead
In Rainbows

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[SteveWrathall]

Why relocalise? Sea freight is extremely energy-efficient. It will still make more sense to import rice from Thailand rather than grow barley in Norway.

[pursuitofinjustice]

true, sea freight is 25X more energy-efficient than air transport, but in the case of the u.s., unless the final destination of the products is near a port, the shipping process transfers to trucking, which is very energy intensive. furthermore, when traveling such far distances as china, even energy efficient transport like sea freight is a major waste of fuel. soon enough, locally made products will have much lower shipping costs, and thus be less expensive for the consumer.

[SteveWrathall]

It will still be cheaper to buy Chinese shoes + sea and electris train cost, rather than go to your local cobbler.

long-distance sea freight-on a gravitational equipotential surface. has been competitive for millenia. othing to do with the age of oil

[pursuitofinjustice]

currently we don't have the electric train in place... and there are no plans to develop such infrastructure. at the same time, you're assuming that traveling by freight from china to the u.s. will be economically viable for an infinite amount of time... what happens when oil reaches 300?

labor cost vs. fuel cost.

my point here... the 'walmart complex' cannot last.

competitive for millenia by using the renewable energy source of the wind, perhaps sailing will make a comeback!!

[SteveWrathall]

Heavy bunker oil wil remain available for centuries, esp if high per barrel prices (though still low per unit of value shipped) make heavy oil reserves economic.

[pursuitofinjustice]

it's all about Net Energy and EROEI. before 1950, the EROEI for oil was higher than 100:1, now it's estimated to be at 10:1.

unconventional reserve extraction is EXTREMELY petroleum dependent and contains very low EROEI. so low, in fact, that extraction of many fields actually produce a 1:1 EROEI ratio, or even less.

shale and heavy oil will have a mitigating impact upon peak oil... but they will only sustain a plateau that inevitably must decline.

[mediomerde]

Es verdad, llegará un dia en que los productos hechos a nivel local tendrá mucho más bajos los gastos de envío, y, por tanto, ser menos costosos para el consumidor. Imaginate tomar una botellita de agua evian en Venezuela solo es posible por lo barato del transporte. Aqui en Venezuela el peak oil será como dentro de cien años a pesar que regalan la gasolina, muy bien hecho el video, felicitaciones