Brahms Symphony No. 4 in E Minor, Op. 98 - IV. Allegro enerico e passionato --- KARAJAN

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Brahms's Symphony No. 4 in E Minor, Op. 98 - IV. Allegro enerico e passionato --- KARAJAN

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[TovenAAA]

Why is Beethoven's grave in the video?

[npa589]

I enjoy putting pieces of music in context to make them just that much more powerful. With as passion as Brahms's music emits AND evokes, it's hard to believe that there were not sources for this passion.

Doesn't this piece sound as though it's a release of passion (and, in turn, a release of utter compositional brilliance)? I think this "release" of concentrated and focused frustration is truly exemplified at the end.

[npa589]

It's as though he feels like he is finally able to say he is free from comparison with Beethoven. (not that he cared, his reasons for not wanting to be compared to Beethoven were not prideful, but reasons of humility due to his vehement respect for Beethoven). He became is own in this symphony. I hear some misinformed and misguided people talk about how Brahms just copied Beethoven, discarding Brahms as they discard Shostakovich when comparing Dmitri to Mahler.

[npa589]

In the case of Shostakovich, it may be warranted, but in the case of Brahms i think "any arse could see that" is insane to claim.

Beethoven's 9th, in my opinion, is the greatest piece of music ever written. Usually people group Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart together as the 3 greatest. Brahms should unanimously be considered with them, but is not because i think that he is STILL overshadowed by Beethoven. Anyways, I could go on and on, so I'll stop.

[npa589]

I guess I'll just finish with this:

Try listening to Brahms's symphonies with these types of contexts in your mind. Picture him composing this music with a chronic and passionate frustration, yet still being able to compose musical works with the entire scope in mind, and that his music isn't just full of sporadic musical assertions filled with passion. In his romantic and powerful passion, there is remarkable continuity. This, itself, is a brilliant accomplishment.

[Mazdak1986]

@npa589 Music is not a competition :) They are all great, and have contributed to the world of art. There is no reason to arrange them in a herarchy. That's to me one of the best things about music. You can't really say someone is number one or "the best guitar player" even though people do it all the time, it just doesen't really have any meaning. It's not a sport and not a competition. It's expression of thoughts and feelings in alanguage that knows know borders.

[anzioa]

@npa589 Do you really think it took brahms until this symphony, his 98th opus, to become his own? Brahms was always his own composer. He knew what he was doing since day 1.

[renato45222]

@npa589 La IV di Brahms è la più ALTA sinfonia della storia della musica! Karajan ne è stato uno dei più grandi interpreti in assoluto, per certi aspetti sicuramente IL più grande.

[s071302]

you are being excessively creative. LOL

[TheNewFlutist]

<3 3:10

Are people aware here what makes this symphony movement so special? It's using the form of a Chaconne, with something like 30 variations on the steady bass progression. Indeed, it's a huge accomplishment for Brahms to unite the Baroque with the Romantic, and he has done it brilliantly here.

[LaPersonaNonGrata]

Bravo, bravo!!! (standing and clapping at the same time)

[codeman2008]

@npa589 Absolutely right. Brahms was by no means a copycat - his music is of unparalleled beauty and originality. I think it may indeed be warranted in Shostakovich's case - I don't find his music to be as original, I don't consider him to be a real 'master' composer. And I would argue that it is ridiculous that people consider Bach, Mozart and Beethoven to be the only three greatest. Brahms is on the same level as those three - so is Haydn, Mendelssohn and all the great master composers.

[dvorakslavenskiples]

This is my favorite symphony by Johannes Brahms. She has such tremendous power that have not the previous symphonies. I consider this symphony a lot better than the second symphony that is more pastoral, while the 4th symphony has this tragic and very high power as well as the tragic ouverture.

[lindzyIsAwesome]

@npa589 wonderfully stated

[shutoman7]

@moviefreek234 Quit right too! This is tragic drama of the High Romantic. It speaks or raging torrents through mountainous gorges. Human struggle failure and triumph, pain and glory. In short - some of the emotions that are most open to human abuse. It is also magnificent and humane. I don't know why people think they can just dismiss Brahms as 'slushy'. This is some of the most angular music I know in the diatonic system. My late uncle - whom I miss terribly - hated this stuff. Not me.