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Conspiracy theorists Alex Jones and Webster Tarpley show their ignorance when discuss the Westminster system of government and the British Monarchy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b51LMBxQIo

Alex Jones makes a big deal about the Queen being Canadas Head of State, not seeming to realise that in Parliamentary systems of government the Head of State and Head of Government are separate. It is the Prime Minister, not the Queen, who holds all executive power.
Jones also appears to be under the impression that Stephen Harpers Conservative party lost the October 2008 Canadian federal election. In fact the Conservatives won the election, increased its vote share and number of seats in the House of Commons. Jones states Harpers party is the minority party when in fact it was the biggest party in parliament, it just didnt have an overall majority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election_2008

Jones frequently refers to a Reuters article as evidence that the Queen has suspended Parliament. However the article in question does not say that, the headline he quotes and shows to camera clearly says Canadian PM wins suspension of Parliament.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4B34BC20081204

Jones then introduces Webster Tarpley who is described as an expert on the British system of government and the Commonwealth of Nations. However Tarpley doesnt seem to know how many countries are in the Commonwealth (he says there are over 70 countries when there are only 53, he says Queen Elizabeth II is the Head of States of all of them, when its only 16). Most startling for someone described as an expert, Tarpley thinks Governor General Michaëlle Jean is a man, when she a woman.

Although the article he talks about states Parliament was prorogated at the request of the Prime Minister, Tarpley says that Governor General has the most power, because [s]he is the one who suspended Parliament. It may be the Governor General who actually did the act but she wouldnt have been able to do so without the Prime Ministers explicit instructions.

Tarpley states two examples to try and show that the Queen and Governor General have the real power. First he says the Queen appointed new senators to vote the way she wanted in the North American Free Trade Agreement debate - yet again, Tarpley gets it wrong. Appointments to the Canadian Senate are only ever made by the monarch on prime ministerial advice. Also, it wasnt the NAFTA debate where new senators were appointed it was the Goods and Services Tax debate and it was Prime Minister Brian Mulroney who wanted the new appointments not the Queen.

The other example stated by Tarpley is The Dismissal, which was a constitutional crisis in 1975 Australia where the Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam, was removed by Governor-General Sir John Kerr. Tarpley suggests that this was all the work of the Queen, he gives no evidence of this, in reality the Queen kept out of the situation and the Governor-General who was surrounded in controversy.
Tarpley dramatically over simplifies what happened. Without wanting to do that same, one of the key things to note is that Tarpley does not mention that the Whitlam Government was accused of attempting to illegally borrow money from Middle Eastern countries, bypassing standard procedure as dictated by the Australian Treasury. It had nothing to do with London and New York as Tarpley suggests. Also the government was dismissed by the Governor-General who did not consult the Queen. In fact the Queen released a statement at the time saying the only person competent to commission an Australian Prime Minister is the Governor-General, and The Queen has no part in the decisions which the Governor-General must take in accordance with the Constitution.
http://whitlamdismissal.com/documents/letter-from-queen.shtml

Alex Jones continues to make several historical errors, not just about the British Monarchy but also basic history of the United States. Jones states that the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was on the British thrown during the time of the American War of Independence. This is wrong; it was the House of Hanover at the time. The House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha only came to the British thrown after Queen Victoria married Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and their son became King in 1901, 125 years after the United States declared independence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchs#House_of_Hanover

Jones also says that the Thirteen Colonies rebelled against Britain because King George III tried to removed the colonists weapons. In reality the war stated because the colonists rejected the right of the Parliament of Great Britain to govern them without representation.

I literally laughed out loud when Jones said how important it was to know history, I only hope he and Webster Tarpley take that advice soon.

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  • instead of saying 'the queen'. he shoulda just stuck with 'the crown' represented by the GG.

    and faux pas and a half on the 'he' for michelle jean.

  • No one should ever suspend parliament, ever, except for the people of course, but who would you rather suspend it, someone who was elected, or someone who was appointed by the queen? Look, if you want to criticize Jones there are plenty of ways, but here he's just reading the article and coming to the logical conclusion that most people would come to. The prime minister decided to suspend parliament, right, and then the GG decided to LET him do it.

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  • Wtf who has the right to claim illegal borrowings by an elected government. The empire was obviously incensed when the Australian government tried to source money out of the inter alpha banking cartel. Laughable that you even insinuate the the queen and the British monetary imperial system has no power. Britain never relinquished power it just went covert using money as its new battleship.

  • Everything the queen owns is from british taxpayers money (called welfare if your not the queen) and the lives of our ancestors whilst the common drown in a sea of fake debt, She has a face and a neck and is mortal like me and you, regardless of jones or tarpley this is a fact and its not right. Sell OUR Buckingham palace and cure world hunger and stop talking about pointless issues like jones or tarpley

  • does anyone else find this odd? or do you just follow whatever you're told. Tarpley has a lot of facts but I feel like he was sent or is being used as a distraction. Watch the movie inception and think of the constitution as your totem.

    /watch?v=Z1dbjWRSkLE&feature=r­elated

    /watch?v=lxLMF8rVdbk

    Ron Paul 2012!

  • @MORCOPOLO0817 Ah, I see. So the New World Order now openly exists? Of course. As does Micky Mouse.

  • @VanDoodah It's already public. I guess you missed the boat!

  • @MORCOPOLO0817 "First they".

    Yes, that's right. "They". I'm part of a huge conspiracy to try and silence the truth about the Reptilian New World Order.

    Also, I didn't attack you, I just laughed at you. How long is it until this "New World Order" goes public? How long until you admit you're wrong?

  • @VanDoodah "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, and then they attack you." I suppose that your comment is a combination of the last two!

  • @donroche She doesn't have the authority to choose the government. She doesn't even have the right to vote. She is the figurehead for the UK and therefore is required to sign all parliamentary bills in order to make them law.

    She has little to now real power, either de jure or de facto.

  • @MORCOPOLO0817 "Narrow-minded stupor".

    This coming from the person who buys propaganda about how liberalism is a step on the road to communism and that a "New World Order" is trying to suppress freedom? I think I'll take your advice with a pinch of salt, much as I would with someone who had escaped from a mad house (such as Alex Jones.)

  • @VanDoodah You grow up and stop living in your narrow minded stupor!

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