The Biblical and Qur'anic Approach to Peace and Violence ( Gilchrist's Opening Statement - 1 of 4 )

Does the Qur'an really teach terrorism?

Did Jesus advocate violence in the Bible?

Are terrorists following the example of Prophet Muhammed(pbuh)?

Is Christianity a peaceful religion?

Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir Ally: Shabir Ally has earned a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis.

He is now in his fourth year of Ph.D studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.

He is the president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto where he functions as Imam.

He travels internationally to represent Islam in public lectures and interfaith dialogues.

He explains Islam on a weekly television program called "Let the Qur'an Speak.

Representing the Christian side was Mr. John Gilchrist: Mr Gilchrist is a practicing attorney, notary and conveyancer who regularly addresses the Institute of Estate Agents in South Africa.

Gilchrist is also the editor of Finance and Manage your Home Loan, soon to be republished under the title My Mortgage.

He's been engaged in Christian Evangelism in South Africa for the past 35 years

He has held debates with figures such as Ahmed Deedat in mid 70s and many numerous Muslim Scholars

The Topic of Debate: The Biblical and Qur'anic Approach to Peace and Violence

Shabir Ally

vs.

John Gilchrist

(Patidar Hall, Lenasia, South Africa, 27th June 2009)

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[pillgrimz]

the muslim brother at the begining did a beautiful recitation masha'Allah

[Oo786oO]

beautiful recitation. SubhanAllah. Do any of you know his name? I would like to hear more of his recitation.

[klnadal]

mash'allah this recitation is absolutely beautiful!!!!!!!

Deedat laid the SOLID foundation for Shabir & Dr. Zakir & others to continue to build. They ALL deserve our love & respect al7amdulellah Allah gave them all to us in OUR time to learn from!!!

[nabz11354]

Very candid discussion by Mr.Gilchrist

[muslimahca]

Salam alaikum,

It is sad to see that people argue about Deedat and Gilcrist debate and, clearly, shows that the importance for them reside in marking points and destroying the other. Listening at such an interesting discussion where respect and peaceful way of adressing each other, the speakers give a perfect example of what is the right way of exchanging view points, even if they differ. it's sad to see the conduct of some people wanting to make it a debate where one destroy the other

[AdamAlScoti]

beautiful recitation. SubhanAllah!! Masha'Allah!!

[Nakdimon316]

Oh its clear why that debate between Gilchrist and Deedat isnt available. Deedat got destroyed! If he did well in that debate it would have been on YouTube just like the Swaggart debate. Which I dont think he did a good job with either.

[kawaiigardiner]

RE: xiaahmad

The problem I find with Deedat is he used rhetoric and misrepresentation rather than facts. Shabir Ally I prefer because he does't belittle his opponent, sticks to the facts and thus leaves very little wiggle room for the opponent to then claim he wasn't given a fair go. When he does see a flaw in opponents the argument rather than resorting to childish rhetoric he gives his opponent to explain them self.

[xiaahmad]

thing is Deedat beat Gilchrist

and now shabir Ally did that

yeh I agree that Shabir Ally is like next level of Deedat but Deedat was good and was one of best of his time and inspired many ppl

[kawaiigardiner]

xiaahmad: if you listened to the video Gilchrist - he openly admitted he was ignorant when he debated Ahmed Deedat. As for Ahmed Deedat - he has no formal education in Islam, I'd sooner listen to Shabir Ally give a lecture all day about Islam; Shabir Ally is an intellectual giant when compared to Ahmed Deedat who simply resorted to ignorance of Christianity and appeals to the popularity of the audience - just listen to Deedat's explanation of the Trinity as the best example of his ignorance