Proof of Evolution
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@hughjarrse We should never decide what is right. We should always be looking for it. I think the "ten commandments" or any set of religious moral standards are totally useless. I think we're both on the same page in thinking that morality is a very difficult concept, it's not black and white.
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@tpstrat14 "Is real sanity possible? You and I better believe it and strive for it or that schizophrenia/ psychosis diagnosis" These are human concepts and devices to try and understand what is "right" and what we decide is "right" may be wrong in the long term, feckless parents have more offspring on average than conscientious parents, and that is counter productive in evolutionary terms! if you cheat in an exam and consequently get a better job is that wrong, we think so, but is it?
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@tpstrat14 "1+1 will always and forever equal 2" you seem to think your designer could have made 1+1=3 if "he" wanted to! that is nothing to do with any set law
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@tpstrat14 "How can they be fixed if nobody fixed them?" that is just an argument from personal incredulity, you can't calculate the odds after the event, you can't say "look where we are, what are the chances of being here" you will always be somewhere, the odds are only legitimate if calculated before the event. if the laws of physics prohibited life we wouldn't be talking about anything, we are because they don't
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@hughjarrse Now we can shift the argument. Is real sanity possible? You and I better believe it and strive for it or that schizophrenia/ psychosis diagnosis might set in and we'll both become Christian or something!
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@hughjarrse I guess my saying that there is an intelligent designer is synonymous with my argument that 1+1 will always and forever equal 2. That means that the laws of mathematics are fixed. How can they be fixed if nobody fixed them? Now don't get me wrong. I am not narcissistic enough to believe that our creator is human in any way, shape or form. I don't know what our creator is, but 1+1 may not equal 2 in reality without a creator and that means that sanity isn't possible.
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@tpstrat14 Woah! hold on, I was quoting Rees, I don't believe that. 11 dimensions is M theory, 10 is string, and multiverse has a universe for every possible event, "universe" is just a word, you said you followed no theology, so a pedant could rightly call you an atheist, I'm surprised you're throwing around insults (schizophrenic) you are being totally disingenuous, tell me you have no idea who you think your "intelligent designer" is
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@hughjarrse I'm not surprised that someone who was previously trying to prove evolution as fact is now talking about the improbability of our universe being reality. Yea, evolution is pretty nutty stuff.
P.S. Go look up the definition of the word "universe". By definition there is only one universe. If you want to talk about the 11 possible dimensions of THE universe, then OK, but don't talk about there being alternate realities. You come off as, how to put this, schizophrenic.
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@tpstrat14 "you can't really be sure that you exist in reality" as Martin Rees pointed out there by definition more virtual universes that actual universes so the chances are we are part of a vitual univers!
the problem in looking for design in everything becomes clear as you learn more, The Giant's Causeway was believed to have a designer until science showed it was a natural formation
@brghost23 You're a creationist. Stop with the obvious lies.
Macroevolution is not a theory. It was made up by creationists. In biology, there's no difference between micro and macro evolution. There is just evolution.
Darwin said that his idea is flawed if we can't find the fossils. Guess what we've found since Darwin's time? Fossils, a whole buttload of them. Not only that, we also found DNA which could have destroyed evolution, but instead, it strengthened it.
sleazybtd 8 months ago 4
@HirizaKyo "If we evolved from apes... then how come they are still here?"
I'm slightly confised, who has ben telling you we evolved from apes? we share a common ancestor with apes, but apes are just as evolved as us and everything else living on earth, they are perfectly evolved apes and we are perfectly evolved humans
hughjarrse 5 months ago 3