John Piper - How Does a Christian Overcome the World?

"Everyone Who Has Been Born of God Overcomes the World"
February 24, 2008

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[MeekServant]

Love it. Great analogy ,

[immobilemilk]

1 John 5:4

[HeavenBound2323]

@MrUrosSrb No what i mean is that if a man truly puts His faith in Christ He will live a different way. A good tree will bear Good fruit and faith without works is dead. If Christ has truly saved a person, He has changed that person.

[MrUrosSrb]

@HeavenBound2323 no i dont.John 3:16,Acts 16:31,John 6:47,Romans 10:13.If you think you are earning heaven by living a certain way of life,then ur wrong.Ephesians 2:8-9.

[HeavenBound2323]

@MrUrosSrb The narrow way is Simply faith in Christ? The narrow way is a path, symbolizing the life of a believer. The gate is Christ, putting your faith in Him and walking accordingly. You have a faulty view of salvation my friend

[MrUrosSrb]

@HeavenBound2323 U are wrong.The narrow way is simply faith in Jesus Christ as savior and lord,and is a one time act.Then later u can grow in faith.

[UrukEngineer]

@HeavenBound2323 Of course I read the bible. You are quoting Matthew 7:23. However you are mis-quoting it out of context. He is telling people who claim to have driven "out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name" - THEY will be disowned. The people who do "will of my Father in heaven" will be saved.

If they think they are doing god's will they will go to heaven. Even if they didn't, all they have to do is repent and god will have them back.

[HeavenBound2323]

@UrukEngineer Sir did you read the scriptures. Christ said that many will come to him on the day of Judgement and say to him Lord Lord. SO they believe that is he Lord. They believe in Christ. Yet he says Depart from me i never knew you. Why would he tell Christians to depart from Him? Because they are not Christians. They are false converts, and pretenders.

[UrukEngineer]

@HeavenBound2323 I am sorry to have to pull you up again, but you really have not proved any such thing. Where does it say in the bible "Not all who believe in Christ are Christians"

On the otherhand Wiki says "Adherents of the Christian faith are known as Christians." The name was given by the non-Jewish inhabitants of Antioch, probably in derision, to the disciples of Jesus.

Believers in christ = "christians".

[HeavenBound2323]

@UrukEngineer James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. (Therefore just believing is not enough.) Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessnes. Not all who believe in Christ are Christians sir.

[UrukEngineer]

@HeavenBound2323 Of course they are christians. They believe in christ = christian.

Where does it say in the Bible that YOUR definition of "christian" is correct?

[HeavenBound2323]

@UrukEngineer All these people you have mentioned are not Christians. These are people who call themselves Christians. But they are not born again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. As Mr Piper is speaking about.