If you want to go beyond Nietzsche, Aristotle did a long time before Nietzsche ever came on the scene. He thought the universe, including humans were rational and this lead to him believing things like, it rains so that plants can grow and other such non-sense.
Ironically, viewing the universe as chaotic (which, I believe modern physics is showing the universe is more and more, i.e. quarks) is the most natural view to take on the universe.
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit half way into this thing. There doesn't have to be reason in physics. There are many example in the universe that defy physics. Reason is still a human invention. It's like a secondary understanding of something. It's grappling with something in order to relate.
Peter is a sophist, and a much less graceful one than what he accuses Nietzsche of being. "without reason, the world would collapse into absurdity" is hardly an argument. He certainly speaks of the 'fear of not knowing,' but this is simply another will. Human reason is an attempt to causally link consequence to desire; 'taking our place in the cosmos' is an analytic's attempt to sound cool, not a premise. The will to truth and fear is certainly more superficial than the will to power.
Perspective on WHAT? Or do you claim there is no WHAT? And aren't you implicitly granting that the cosmos, from your (and others' perspectivalism) DOES collapse into perspectivalism?
There have been successful planned revolutions--and I do not mean coups d'etat. SO people have known how to do more than extrapolate within a regimen of items but to create a new--and better--one. That's a bit of extended articulation.
If you want to go beyond Nietzsche, Aristotle did a long time before Nietzsche ever came on the scene. He thought the universe, including humans were rational and this lead to him believing things like, it rains so that plants can grow and other such non-sense.
Ironically, viewing the universe as chaotic (which, I believe modern physics is showing the universe is more and more, i.e. quarks) is the most natural view to take on the universe.
bahramf 1 year ago
I think he draws the correct inference, but the truth is too difficult to bear: thus logos. We need it, desperately.
comdico 2 years ago
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit half way into this thing. There doesn't have to be reason in physics. There are many example in the universe that defy physics. Reason is still a human invention. It's like a secondary understanding of something. It's grappling with something in order to relate.
alejandro15187 3 years ago 2
Peter is a sophist, and a much less graceful one than what he accuses Nietzsche of being. "without reason, the world would collapse into absurdity" is hardly an argument. He certainly speaks of the 'fear of not knowing,' but this is simply another will. Human reason is an attempt to causally link consequence to desire; 'taking our place in the cosmos' is an analytic's attempt to sound cool, not a premise. The will to truth and fear is certainly more superficial than the will to power.
DJAR1E 3 years ago 2
Yes, Schuller is logocentric. Above, I said 'Schuller advocates logocentrism'. Do you not understand?
briannewion 4 years ago
Perspective on WHAT? Or do you claim there is no WHAT? And aren't you implicitly granting that the cosmos, from your (and others' perspectivalism) DOES collapse into perspectivalism?
amandaveritas 4 years ago
Or are you a dualist: 1) Reason 2) "Fight", reality, power? NOT EVERYONE IS. Many, many identify reason and generating. And are hylozoic monists.
amandaveritas 4 years ago
Schuller IS logocentric. Are you just calling him with a dirty name? And is the only kind of successful response a "fight"?
amandaveritas 4 years ago
There have been successful planned revolutions--and I do not mean coups d'etat. SO people have known how to do more than extrapolate within a regimen of items but to create a new--and better--one. That's a bit of extended articulation.
amandaveritas 4 years ago
"But the cosmos is an extended articulation",well,thats one perspective I suppose.:-)
spinozacelt 4 years ago