Re: SEPTEMBER DAWN FORCES LDS CHURCH TO ADMIT GUILT
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It's a good thing people are entitled to their own opinion on all matters. This video presents the author's. Mine differs.
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So from the oficial action we see the nature of the leaders, they did not want conflict, that other individuals,acting against the teachings of the church, commited this crime is truelly sad but to falsely accuse Brigham of knowing and participating in the slaughter by commanding it is a lie.
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It is clear to me you do not know us so investigate, go to a sacrament meeting and see how it truelly is, all welcome, Sunday starting at 9.
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How does it help us to present aspects of our history,culture,beliefs,practi
ses and our leaders in a false and dishonest way, are you any more honest? -
@llewellleo Any defects in the movie only go to help Mormons, The truth is much more sordid. The Mormons had no problem Not killing USA Soldiers, where the Real threat existed. Mormons followed, burned,harassed the soldiers but no deaths. Yet at MMM the women and children and men were separated and systematically murdered. Briggy not knowing what was going on is absurd. He controlled with an iron fist,right down to marriage! The Mormons carefully concealed this crime, a conspiracy on many levels
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I have been reading your responses to comments on your video for about 5 minutes now and my conclusion is simple. You're clearly a delusional moron regurgitating you're friends/family's/bishops false information and claiming it as fact. Then when fact is presented to you, you write it off saying 'there's no proof of that' when clearly there is. Don't bother responding, I don't have time to trade words with an ingrate.
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@Jerko Sydneys quote is from a letter he wrote to the Messenger and Advocate in 1844. He further went on to call joe's affair with Fanny Alger " a most dispicable affair" and also "lecherous." These are direct quotes from your own churches archives. You can look them up yourself so you know I'm not making any of this up.. You need to do your due dilligence before you call others scholar "not factual." Especially when the information comes DIRECTLY from your own church.
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@Jerko Actually joe harrassed two 14 year old and used pressure on their families to ultimately get them to marry him. This is what Sydney Rigdon said of the practice: "First, insulting young innocent females, and when they resented the insult, these monsters in human shape would assail their characters by lying, and perjuries, with a multitude of desperate men to help them effect the ruin of those whom they insulted, and all this to enable them to keep these corrupt practices from the world."
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@Jerko For not existing, your church sure put a lot of time and effort into studying them. There is a plethora of information on the Danites, and their illegal activities. In short, they were a mormon hit squad who took their orders from joe, Sydney Rigdon, hyrum smith, and Brigham Young. It is well documented that it was they, who on joes orders, destroyed the Expositor printing press, ultimately lading him in Carthage jail.
Stay with the context of the video. They said that the church was addressing it on their website and in the magazine ensign. The clip of hinkley shows the FORMER mormon stance on it. You, as all mormons, skew the topic in an effort to CREATE a misunderstanding. This is a direct attempt to mislead people. NOT COOL! Why don't you address the Danites, and their role in mormon history? Address the things done by your "prophet" to young girls, and those that opposed mormonism.BTW Movie is factual.
theboofooguy 1 year ago
@theboofooguy
there's nothing to address about the danites since they never got to exist, Smith took over and kicked them out of the church before they got to do anything, or can you furnish any real evidence for the danites?
Little girls were never harassed by Smith, he was sealed to one for the next life, to link the two families together, but marriages to early teens were normal at the times anyway. All reviews of the movie seem to think it's not factual, because it isn't.
Jarkko1983 1 year ago
Why would the primary or the Sunday school teach this, when they are to teach the gospel principles to it's members?
History of individual members isn't the concern for the church, Does the baptist or Methodists teach in their Sunday schools about a member or members of their church who may have murdered people???? thought so. But in the institute of d&c and the history of the church, mmm is taught as well, also I read about in the seminary of the of the church history, so you were proven wrong.
Jarkko1983 3 years ago
"the movie was very poor..." "so clearly done with a hostile intent"
dude you are talking about the murder of american settlers by LDS members and you show no respect for the dead. women and children died that day. women and children. yet you just put the blame on the "anti mormons". anti mormons or not, you don't kill women and children. fuck Brigham and his band of cowards.
Kafka1479 3 years ago
Brigham Young had nothing to do with that event, there's no prove to support that claim, but he did send an letter to tell the people to let the people go, but it arrived 2 days late. Leader of the massacre was punished accordingly and the church as an organisation had nothing to do with it, there's no proof. And in america youare innocent until proven othervise. Anti's like to put it like that mormons arte qulty untill proven innocent.
Jarkko1983 3 years ago
...Mormons should also admit that their founder joseph smith was a purveyor of forgery...wanted for bank fraud...and that he deceived MILLIONS into thinking "God spoke to him and "commanded" him to practice polygamy considerd immorality by the new testament church for 2000 years now.. ...SEE "DNA vs. THE BOOK OF MORMON"...also "THE LOST BOOK OF ABRAHAM (FUUL VIDEO) how science and historians are exposing joseph smith. mormon church founder as a fraud.....
dimtry19 3 years ago
Dna vs book of mormon has been answered long time ago, it's poor science coupled with false claims concerning the book of mormon and it's geography and claims. The lost book of abraham has been answered throughly aswell, John Gee wrote an rewiev of it tragedy of errors, read that and try to prove his analysis wrong if you can.
I have made videos on the polygamy and demonstrated how the bible doesn't consider it immoral, neither the nt church. prove those videos wrong in their own place.
Jarkko1983 3 years ago