Venger Satanis

I don't like self proclaimed "Messiahs"... Let's level the playing field. I don't have anything personal against Venger personally, but he does take himself way too seriously.

Link to Venger's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J-KD1LA84Y

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• satanism
• cult of cthulhu
• venger
• modesty
• ha ha only serious

[shaynasays666]

It makes no sense All of you judging one another and not focusing on making separate accomplishments in Satans Name and Glory. If you wish to not acknowledge Satan then continue bickering not mentioning Satan and do you think your Groups will continue do I think Satan will allow you to waste his name and time? If I were Satan I would pull the floor from beneath your feet.Here you have new pupils arriving seeking and 4 what to find bickering. Losing possibly what Satan might want .people?

[coolvibe1975]

@shaynasays666 Do your worst. I'm not impressed. And I don't judge, I just voice my opinion. Feel free to disagree, but don't come to my videos spouting this inane bullshit.

[egodiabolus666]

Great video. The only point I would make is to question if it is the intention of Venger and the CoC to be a "Satanist" organization. If there goal is to be something else, then the standards they set for themselves are not relative to the standards sometimes set by Satanists... but that leads to why there is a competition in the first place.

[ONA5252]

they can call themselves whatever they like, if they don't fuck with me, I don't have to care! and about messiahs..we are all messiahs in our sort of way, only that VS built an organisation with his ideas and he has all the right to do it.

[73happygirl]

You made some good points, I believe that satanism should not be a competition, It is what we are that defines us. A true satanist is not a follower that is true but sometimes it is good to have a teacher.

[coolvibe1975]

@TrollTowelhead Actually, it doesn't matter. Because I do respect Venger as a person (not as a "Messiah" or "Ipsissimus"), and because (most importantly) Venger actively seeks feedback, I oblige. And even though I think he's completely off his rocker, I still like the guy. I guess you could call that support. :)

[TrollTowelhead]

@coolvibe1975 - Agreed that he set himself up to be challenged. You did that well. You also disclosed your dislike for "self-proclaimed messiahs". From a Satanist, this is not surprising, since Christians tout their chosen messiah/kristos they appropriated from Judaism, and most Satanists are anti-Christian. But my challenge to you in return is why it matters if it is a *self-proclaimed* promotional. I want to see if you agree that aspect of his claim is admirably outrageous, even supportable.

[coolvibe1975]

@TrollTowelhead Of course, that's up to Venger himself. But he is setting himself up to be challenged, and I did exactly that. I just voice my opinions on it (isn't that what YouTube is for?). I'm certainly not telling anyone what to do or not to do. I have some very strong philosophical disagreements with Venger, we just don't see eye to eye (see discussions in followup videos). So we agree to disagree, which is what I can live with.

[TrollTowelhead]

@coolvibe1975 - If some church proclaimed him messiah would that change your mind? I doubt it. I'll guess you don't like messiahs, and wonder what the problem is with a self-proclaimed *anything*. One might argue that his willingness to be self-proclaimed is Satanic step. Perhaps if more people proclaimed themselves to be anointed as a god or as some kind of king of the world we'd have a better world. :) OTOH, by styling himself 'messiah', he links himself to Christianity and Judaism resolutely.

[coolvibe1975]

@shaynasays666 You probably haven't understood a word of what I said, and it shows you lack the comprehension. And I should be impressed how? Because you say so? Not likely. Get the fuck off my channel. You add nothing. I would actually dare to say that you are an idiot. It's batshit crazy folks like you that give Satanism a bad wrap. So goodbye.

[shaynasays666]

I just would take fellow Satanists more seriously not by what documents or diplomas you have but by proof of your works call it miracles, signs and wonders. I have my Factual testimonies of Many many gifts to prove I am in Tune with the Power of Satan and all the blessings one should accomplish if you are Real. Ive seen buildings burn, enemies sickened and filled with fear, suicide and termination everything exactly as I ask in the Name of Satan. By these things I prove I am a Satanist 100%.