Who-When-Where-What, Tibet

refer to:
http://tibet.prm.ox.ac.uk/index.php
a site of Oxford University with 6,000 old photographs of Tibet!
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Play List
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DCD04906E7B4F597
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The True Face Of The Dalai Lama
by Kalovski at 4-2-8
http://www.rense.com/general81/faeeof.htm
[Part.6]
The class relations of Tibet were reproduced inside the monasteries: the majority of monks were
slaves and servants to the upper abbots and lived half-starved lives of menial labor, prayer
chanting and routine beatings. Upper monks could force poor monks to take their religious exams
or perform sexual services. (In the most powerful Tibetan sect, such homosexual sex was
considered a sign of holy distance from women.) A small percent of the clergy were nuns.
After liberation, Anna Louise Strong asked a young monk, Lobsang Telé, if monastery life
followed Buddhist teachings about compassion. The young lama replied that he heard plenty of
talk in the scripture halls about kindness to all living creatures, but that he personally had
been whipped at least a thousand times. "If any upper class lama refrains from whipping you," he
told Strong, "that is already very good. I never saw an upper lama give food to any poor lama
who was hungry. They treated the laymen who were believers just as badly or even worse."
These days, the Dalai Lama is "packaged" internationally as a non-materialist holy man. In fact,
the Dalai Lama was the biggest serf owner in Tibet. Legally, he owned the whole country and
everyone in it. In practice, his family directly controlled 27 manors, 36 pastures, 6,170 field
serfs and 102 house slaves.
When he moved from palace to palace, the Dalai Lama rode on a throne chair pulled by dozens of
slaves. His troops marched along to "It's a Long Way to Tipperary," a tune learned from their
British imperialist trainers. Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama's bodyguards, all over six-and-a-half
feet tall, with padded shoulders and long whips, beat people out of his path. This ritual is
described in the Dalai Lama's autobiography.
The first time he fled to India in 1950, the Dalai Lama's advisors sent several hundred mule-
loads of gold and silver bars ahead to secure his comfort in exile. After the second time he
fled, in 1959, Peking Review reported that his family left lots of gold and silver behind, plus
20,331 pieces of jewelry and 14,676 pieces of clothing.
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Originally from http://www.bestcyrano.org/cyrano/?p=507

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[kungfupandaDarren]

I was just going by youtube videos on the matter mate - and as tib10boi said - the idea of serfs has been overblown by Chinese propaganda, however actually slavery did exist in Tibet until abolished by the CCP in 1959 - the point that I was making was that I want a FREE AND DEMOCRATIC TIBET!

[drukpadasho]

95% serf? can you substantiate your number? First CCP told the former Tibet Govt. in Lhasa that China wud come to liberate Tibet from Imperialists UK, US etc not serfs.

From 1949-59, CCP worked and supported Tibet's aristocrats.

Some Chinese sources say 60% Tibetans were serfs, some 45% and some 65%-70%, now 95%. Stop playing with propaganda.

China accepts that 30% of Tibetans r nomad, 20% monks n nuns.

nomads n monks r not under govt. tax or control, free on their own, so howcome 95% serfs?

[tib10boi]

the idea of serfs is overblown by chinese propaganda, not to say that we tibetans are perfect, cause we arent and we had alot of turmoils, but their is a clear distinction between chinese and tibetans, and it boils down to the fact that every peoples or culture has the right to self determination, the right to chose ones own destiny. but yes definetley darren l want a FREE DEMOCRATIC TIBET.

[amilolo]

when will this dream come ture? we are waited too long。。。

[kungfupandaDarren]

This is a fantastic video - I am in favour of a Free Tibet as in a Tibet where human rights are respected, where the whole of China is a democracy, where the Tibetians can take part in the vote for a president and where they have their own regional government similar to the Welsh or Scotish assembly, and full independance if the majority want that. But I am not in favour of a Free Tibet as in a Tibet where 95% of the population are surfs and have no human rights.

[yesUWillHateMe]

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