Homosexuality in the Animal Kingdom

A clip from a National Geographic programme 'Wild Sex' showing that humans are not the only ones to form relationships with their own gender.
Homosexuality has been documented in more than 450 species of mammals, birds, reptiles, insects and other animals.
A comprehensive book on the subject, collating years of research, is 'Biological Exuberance' by Bruce Bagemihl.
http://www.amazon.com/Biological-Exuberance-Homosexuality-Diversity-Stonewall...

Also see Evolution's Rainbow: Diversity, Gender, and Sexuality in Nature and People by Joan Roughgarden at
http://www.amazon.com/Evolutions-Rainbow-Diversity-Gender-Sexuality/dp/052026...

and recently: "Homosexual behaviour widespread in animals according to new study"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Homosexual-behaviour-...

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[dannyboyinspace]

Rape has also been observed in the Animal Kingdom does that make it natural too?

[RobNorthampton]

@dannyboyinspace Anything that occurs in nature can be described as 'natural', including rape. Whether it is welcome, either by an animal or another human is a different matter. However, rape is nothing to do with sexuality, because it can happen to an animal of any sexuality, including primates - even those that comment on youtube.

If you are simply trying to infer that sexuality is a choice in the same way that a rapist makes a choice, then your argument falls apart under weight of evidence.

[dannyboyinspace]

@RobNorthampton Actually no what I'm saying is people conform to whatever society tells me. For example the sterotypical adult age of 18 is complete bullshit why shouldn't say a a man in his 20s and a 17 year old girl be able to love each other and have sex if its consensual I mean it would be seen as perfectly ok if she was 18 so why not 17? racism was seen as ok in the 50s now its not, homosexuality was not seen as ok in 80s but now it is. No opinion is right or wrong its just opinion.

[RobNorthampton]

@dannyboyinspace I agree with you that age of consent laws are odd, to say the least. Each country decides when their people are old enough to be a consenting adult. In the UK, the gay age of consent used to be 21. It has fallen over the years and is now 16 to bring it in line with heterosexual age of consent. It's a grey area, but I think we have to have some 'cut-off point' or paedophiles would be able to groom children with no comeback.

[RobNorthampton]

In the case of rape, I don't see how it can ever be accepted as a normal behaviour trait in society, because the person being raped is a victim, and is not consenting.

[dannyboyinspace]

@RobNorthampton Even at 16 AOC doesn't make sense a 17 year old and 15 year old having consensual sex isn't nor should ever be considered a crime. Do you realise how many young people lives are ruined everyday by that bullshit? too many. I agree that prepubescent children should not be having sex however, in the case of teenagers if a court wants to charge someone they should have a psychiatrist test the younger person and see if they were capable of "giving consent" I guarantee majority are

[RobNorthampton]

@dannyboyinspace I agree with you. If teens are of a similar age and are responsible, I don't see why a law should stop them being together. They are going to do it anyway, regardless of A of C laws. I think it's more about protecting them from predators..

At the age of 24, I risked jail for 3 years because my partner was 18 when we moved in together, and the A of C was 21 at that time. They enforced the law too. I knew a guy who was 22, and was jailed for 9 months for dating an 18 yr old.

[RobNorthampton]

@strikenetter It's a continuous battle trying to educate people, but unfortunately, some people come with their own predisposed bigotry, so rather than listen to facts about the real world, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "LaLaLaLaLaLaLa!"

;-)

[strikenetter]

From @BlackMambaFox's comments, its suggestive that any homosexual humans' behavior would be acceptable if he/she could switch their desires for sexual preference on and off like a light switch and bisexuality would be natural, but not homosexuality. The humor of ignorance! Isn't it humorous how people state it isn't natural.( deriving from nature), yet its profoundly witnessed throughout nature, yet it doesn't count or isn't natural? lol. Do you hate stupid people as much as I? lol.

[dannyboyinspace]

@hereicome72 No its not. Not being able to speak English just proves you're a dumb wanker. Go fuck yourself bitch.

[Welcome2KFC]

Dafuq did I just watch :)?

[hereicome72]

@dannyboyinspace its your hate and homophobia barking. do you think we all chose a lifestyle that would make us lose most people close to us? enough said. take your ignorance else where.

and by the way. having ignorance is worse than not being able to speak english well!

[dannyboyinspace]

@hereicome72 I never said I didn't like it YOU FUCKING POOF LEARN TO SPELL YOU RETARD people like you piss me off. You can't even define what consenting adult is you dumb douche. Shut the fuck up learn the English language and accept the fact that I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST YOU WANKER all I said was just something is observed in nature doesn't mean its natural.

[hereicome72]

@dannyboyinspace you are so stupid. im not a native speaker and misspelling shouldn't make my argument go down the drain. all i said is if hetrosexuality occurs in animal kingdom, shouldn't it be wrong just like homosexuality and rape??

Get the hell out of natural shit already....I mean in all motherfucking arguments. Would you throw out your microwave just because it's "un natural".

nothing can be wrong if it occurs between two consenting adults.you don't like it because we are different!

[dannyboyinspace]

@hereicome72 Heterosexuality* best to learn the spelling before you comment. If not for heterosexuality none of us would be here so think before you comment please.

[hereicome72]

@dannyboyinspace heatrosexuality is also seen in animal kingdom, does that make it wrong?

[BananaSandwich1]

@dannyboyinspace yeah but rape has an obvious emotional impact wereas two dudes doin each other isnt bad for anyone ya know?

[BAchoHAl]

Nine people have not mastered the finer points of the backdoor....

[BAchoHAl]

DAMN NATURE YOU SCARY!!!!