@senatus Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
@Perion Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
@senatus yeah but the X-Wing was blasting at the surface and tower guns, so it's kinda tricky to say, also it was made out of Quadanium. not Durasteel.
The only thing I want to note is a minor nitpick. Yeah, that one Borg ship was destroyed by a solar flare. But if you do a search on that at SD.net, seanrobertson had some interesting conclusions about why flares are so lethal. IIRC, in brief, it was the intensity of the magnetic field, not the plasma, that was so deadly. I could dig into that more and send you a message if you like, but I have to surrender the PC to my ingrate siblings now :D
@Perion: Fine point :), but I still have problems with the small holes we see blown in the Venator attacking the Invisible Hand. I mean, the Death Star's surface was made of durasteel, and Luke's X-Wing could punch holes in it. Since an X-Wing's only good for perhaps a couple dozen kilotons/sec (if that), I think you see where I'm going. If kilotonnage can gouge holes in durasteel, it seems to me that billions of kilotons/shot should have a much greater effect than we usually see.
@Perion: Those relative stats make sense. Hasn't it been said that Victory-class destroyers and Venators are an approximate match? Wasn't it also written that it'd take two or three Vicstars to take on an Imperator/Imperial?
But what about 5000 photon torpedoes ready for launch?
Idazmi7 1 month ago
man, and sisco was about to put the pimp magic on the ho. guess he will have to wait til the next life
sadalite 3 months ago
What the hell im arsholl
MusicVidio1000 4 months ago
@senatus Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
Idazmi7 4 months ago
@Perion Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
Idazmi7 4 months ago
@senatus fascinating, that would be an interesting read.
Perion 5 months ago
@senatus yeah but the X-Wing was blasting at the surface and tower guns, so it's kinda tricky to say, also it was made out of Quadanium. not Durasteel.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion: Hey dude :)
The only thing I want to note is a minor nitpick. Yeah, that one Borg ship was destroyed by a solar flare. But if you do a search on that at SD.net, seanrobertson had some interesting conclusions about why flares are so lethal. IIRC, in brief, it was the intensity of the magnetic field, not the plasma, that was so deadly. I could dig into that more and send you a message if you like, but I have to surrender the PC to my ingrate siblings now :D
senatus 5 months ago
@Perion: Fine point :), but I still have problems with the small holes we see blown in the Venator attacking the Invisible Hand. I mean, the Death Star's surface was made of durasteel, and Luke's X-Wing could punch holes in it. Since an X-Wing's only good for perhaps a couple dozen kilotons/sec (if that), I think you see where I'm going. If kilotonnage can gouge holes in durasteel, it seems to me that billions of kilotons/shot should have a much greater effect than we usually see.
senatus 5 months ago
@Perion: Those relative stats make sense. Hasn't it been said that Victory-class destroyers and Venators are an approximate match? Wasn't it also written that it'd take two or three Vicstars to take on an Imperator/Imperial?
senatus 5 months ago