How Was The Bible Put Together? (Dr. Erwin Lutzer)

Dr. Erwin Lutzer explains how the Canon (New Testament) was put together and how Paul's letters were already considered inspired, and included when they were written.

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[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U Nobody ever said that confessing to one another is not good. We just say that your sins won't be forgiven that way. Again, John 20.19-23: He gave HIS APOSTLES this authority. He didn't say: anyone can confess anything to anyone, and it will magically be forgiven.

"The idea is to have a spiritual brother"

That's a priest.

Last thing: the Church never taught that Confession was necessayer for salvation, but is used to expiate temporal effects of sin.

A thought: /watch?v=N-mbVFzy5A8

[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U Being a "true believe" is not enough. That's ressembles to Pelagianism, an old heresy that dates to the 4th century, that claims that mortal will is capable of perfectly choosing good or evil without special Divine aid.

Not everybody can just decide to become priest, just as they can't decide to simply speak up in the name of Christ. Only properly appointed bishops can do that. That was the case in the first century, and still is. Reject that and you'll get anarchy.

[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U Jesus gave specific people the authority to forgive sins, namely the Apostles. If anyone could do it, there would have been no need in instauring this Sacrament to begin with.

It is a grace that is recieved, only through Apostollic Succession. Why do you fear this concept? It is not evil. It historically dates back to the Apostles themselves... As in Judaism not everyone is to because a priest, so it is in Christianity.

[Moving2U]

@Gazdo01 Regarding Confession. Catholic practice must be to a priest. Biblical practice = confess your sins one to another i.e. a Catholic priest is not required as we are all priests. The idea is to have a spiritual brother close enough to you to be able to openly share your sins with for the purpose of accountability, prayer, and honesty not giving the devil a foothold. Confessing to a priest is not wrong, but in no means mandatory for salvation as it has become in Catholicism.

[Moving2U]

@Gazdo01 Regarding Dec 23 - Homily: Habit of Confession video. It builds on a premise that is not Biblical. Penance is not in the Bible except for the Douay-Rheims mistranslation. "Repentence" is a condition of the heart, "penance" is a dead work and wherever the NT scripture uses metanoeo (repent = to turn around, change ones mind) the Catholics mistranslate it to penance, which carries an enterirely different meaning and then build further improper doctrine upon it.

[Moving2U]

@Gazdo01 regarding No Apologies #98 - Confession video, I can appreciate and agree with the key scripture used to support this. My issue is not with holy men not being able to lead a person to Christ but rather the many Catholic writings that indicate that without a Catholic priest presiding over, there can be no true salvation. ALL true believers are priests, not just the Catholic order of priests. (1 Pet 2:9). This is just one issue that points to eilism.

[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U Maybe these will help too...

/watch?v=RsXlTGNTvpw

/watch?v=7xvpw_XgPS8

/watch?v=zGQzMCm8PSA

I had a couple of French video in mind, but I guess you don't speak that langage.

Pax tecum

[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U And I can see your objection in advance, so I'll just say that acting "in Persona Christi" DOESN'T mean that the priest is actually Christ, nor that there are many Christs, nor that the priest is a "special" human being, nor that he has been "elevated" in the flesh, etc.

Just as in Jn 20.23 the Apostles recieve the power to forgive and retain sins... but we also know that only God can forgive sins (Mk 2.7). Are the Apostles suddenly being compared to God. No. Same here with priests.

[Gazdo01]

@Moving2U I've had discussion before about Penance... and no protestant has yet being able to explain what is wrong with confessing sins on a FUNDAMENTAL level.

Ask yourself why did God BECAME MAN? Why didn't he just forgive my sins magically from Heaven? Realize that you have been saved by a MAN.

Jesus gave authority to his Apostles to forgive sins.(Jn 20.23) But it's not the human per se that do the forgiving, rather it is Christ THROUGH them. The same principle applies with modern priests.