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Calling out Peter Joseph - The Intellectual Dishonesty of the Zeitgeist movement (Pt. 1)

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StormCloudsGathering: This is a video response to Peter Joseph's reply to Stephan Molyneux on his Review of Zeitgeist moving forward. In this video I establish that the official Resource Based Economy has numerous very real, and legitimate problems. Those problems are not minor details that can be glossed over or fixed at a later date, they are in fact inherent design flaws which render it unworkable.

Peter Joseph's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozy52bZ6JTw
Stephan's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5K07c72Tw
My earlier challenges to Peter Joseph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRt6IvZIG3U and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUVYevaXKT4

Thank you StormCloudsGathering

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  • I support TZM .I know its flawed but Im willing to try something new.

  • Interesting response, and you bring up some great points. But I think you overlook a few things:

    1) Peter Joseph presents the Resource Based Economy as the only alternative because no one has presented another one. He doesn't present it as the only POSSIBLE alternative.

    2) Although his use of sarcasm is hypocritical, I think it was a result of PJ segueing back from the RBE into the idea that being against the "free" market is somehow Marxist; I don't think he was obfuscating like Stepan was.

  • @2bornot2b1984 if i said to you, the most economic way to travel from point A to B is in a straight line, is that my bias opinion? or is that actually cold, scientific reasoning? i dont understand why you take such a determined stance. are you happy with the way the world is?

  • @TheEffinBongShow

    "the most economic way has no bias, dummy."

    xD

    Irony much? Someone HAS to program the control system. Is it going to program ITSELF?

    xD

    Your logic is just as flawed as Peter Joseph's. Take another hit dude.

  • @MegaJay79 We are in a dictatorship. Your votes don't count for shit, want the puppet on the right? Or the puppet on the left?

    A Resource Based Economy has nothing to do with the democratic process that either does or does not take place in the government. A real democracy would allow the entire population to vote on the agenda rather then a fraction of a fraction of the population to force their agenda. The Anonymous movement ideology embraces a lot of what this real democracy would look like.

  • ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY HAVE AN OPINION WITHOUT ACTUALLY SEEING PJ'S FILMS IS A BIG FAT FAIL

  • @MegaJay79 take the time out of your busy day and actually watch the new zeitgeist.

  • @TheEffinBongShow Our vote allows us to have an opinion on how society is run this is not the case with RBE, it's a dictatorship...

    Why can't RBE be a democracy? Why can't the people have a say in how their lives are run?

    A lot of crimes are stem from class and money but many are not

  • nobody's gonna program the control systems in a bias way because the most economic way has no bias, dummy.

  • @MegaJay79 people would have more power over there lives because they wouldn't have to make money to live. its not like there would be a computer system that branded you at birth for a specific profession. its not orwellian...and the vast majority of laws and crimes ARE about money.

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