Operation Health Freedom - Daniel Hannan (No Edits)

As part of our Operation Health Freedom series, British MEP Daniel Hannan talks about the National Health Service (NHS), England's publicly-funded health care system, and looks at why it is so difficult to reform such a system once people get used to it.

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[phchartrand]

The Boston Tea Party is coming up on December 16th and there's going to be a moneybomb just like in the old days, this time for Rand !

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[chucktube90]

This is not a standardized product like energy, and even there the government allows competition. This is disturbing that a version has passed the house.

[davijeph]

@cwood4ever I am very pro American ( wearing my Levi 501s, Timberland shirt, Rockport shoes and my American/Japanese made car in the garage) admiring your arts and to a lesser extent culture and values, not so sure about the politics but even today our forces are allied in war. All the Americans I have met have had open and generous natures (you however can keep your evangelists). The fact you say you have no insurance speaks volumes what if you have an accident or develope a serious illness?

[cwood4ever]

@davijeph LOL there are over 300 million people in the USA a national health service is impossible. My grandfather lived into his late 90s 2 years shy of 100. I have always gotten great health care and never went bankrupt. Not to mention I don't have insurance right now, I just pay out of pocket for small things. Example I went to the Chiropractor payed $40.00 easy. If I needed something major I just get medicare which will pay for it. You should stop listening to Anti American propaganda. USA#1

[davijeph]

@cwood4ever LOL you do not know the true

Life expectancy in the US was 78 years in 2007, compared with 80 years in the UK.

Spending on healthcare UK approximately GDP 8% US approximately 16% of GDP

Nearly 45,000 people die in the US each year in large part because they lack health insurance (Harvard Uni)

Medical problems caused 62% of all personal bankruptcies filed in the US in 2007, UK medical cost bankruptcies ZERO.

Please see “the U.S. Healthcare system in international Context”

[cwood4ever]

@davijeph LOL cant take truth

[davijeph]

No, Mr Hannan they were attacks on you.Listening to you on Fox about the NHS was sickening .I doubt you have ever used the NHS and so divorced from "ordinary lives" with your never worked for wealth you dare to try and destroy possibly the greatest organisation this country has ever developed.Insurance based health is great for those like you.For those in the middle and low paid it's a nightmare just note the self reliant people in the USA bankrupted by health care cost.Shame on you.

[ohmyliver01]

But you expect any drug released in such a FDAless market wouldn't be aggressivly marketed? Getting rivals to fact check would take years (and probably millions of dollars in legal fees) after said drug had been released to the general public.

So, the US Army sucks then? The fireservice? The police force? Do they all suck? They are all monopolies in the same way that the FDA is.

The influence of large companies upon the governing of the US is a different mater

pease out to you sir as well...

[libertyplayground]

with no fda, people's actions in regard to determining which drugs they want to take changes. they don't just assume that drugs on the market are good - which is a dangerous proclivity even when there is an fda.

finally, fda is a monopoly, and as such, will suck at its job and take way too much money. And block natural medicines cause its beholden to the pharma companies.

peace out.

[ohmyliver01]

re: fda. explain how I'm using a 'with all other things being equal' analysis.

I'm just saying that even with the FDA, and competiting companies, there have been toxic harmful drugs sucessfully sold. Without the FDA you think people would be protected by info on drugs provided by competing companies? Really? Even though they could only get this info after the drug has gone to market? Even though the competing info claims would be a gift to lawyers? It wouldn't matter how diligent people were

[ohmyliver01]

No, he clearly says 'In a 1992 study published by the Hoover Institution, entitled "Input and Output in Health Care," Friedman noted that 56 percent of all hospitals in America were privately owned and for-profit in 1910.... "

He was either lieing or such a poor scholar that he didn't check his main source.

Both aren't a good look. You look up to him, why?

[libertyplayground]

didn't see it there, i saw some of the other info that dilorezno used there, maybe the percentages came from somewhere else. if i cared enough, i would email him.

re: fda, you are using faulty 'cetaris paribus' analysis, saying the fda has helped keeping drugs off the market - because you are imagining a scenario where bad drugs are on the market, but people take them cause they outsource their diligence to fda.... but if fda is removed, info on drugs will be provided by competing companies.