Titanic facts (description for more info)

(Updated description.) New version up hopefully. Fullscreen and HQ for better clearity of charts and dark parts of the vid. Also, read this for further info.

This is a series of the real collected facts on Titanic in 1996-1998. Most of which remain today. It demonstrates how this angle would look at to the eye with a simpler anim8or model I made, also.

Of course Titanic could have broken at the 10-15 ONLY angles, however, note that they are on the same fail time frame of 2:17 A.M.. At that point you would see that they will always put 10-15 degrees ONLY at 2:17 A.M.. A slowing of the plunge as 20 degrees starts the bending momentum at 90, 10 is already over 90 and neither make it into 93. There is only a difference of 1.5 points maximum between 10-15 on the chart.

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Though 15 degrees isn't that different, which is another vast point, it's the same time frame again. This vastly would be an adjustment which merely slows the plunge process to only reach here when it breaks.

10-12, is major ignorance of onboard testimony, even Lightoller's, who says the vent took him under water. At the angle, not only is the vent enough above water, but funnel 1 cannot fall.

After this, breaking to plunge strands many who ran when the water began consistantly crawling the deck, on the bow section, where the starboard side is elevated enough to see B off on the other side. Also, note that once again, the time frame is 2:17 A.M. and therefore, they would not be crawling to the back in a hurry due to being too slow or settled for some time.

One of the final straws is that Gracie would hear a new louder rumbling aft of him, yet states no noise yet loud enough to be an explosion or break up in his book. The ship at 17+ takes him enough under by then to muffle this.

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17+ comes from a portion that would not easily change by simply, a more accurate intake per second. If you were able to manually fill the simulation model, without an entry point, would it not be the same limitation of design vs the water weight at correct size per square inch? Remember that this is the same design parameters used for stress to begin with, so nothing is safe at all.

This other can only help set the time frame and actual rates per second. Even then, the plunge is a limitation breach, so it may not be anything different to begin with. It is thus still accurate as more accuracy means more water with a more violent and quick plunge anyways.

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On the funnels' side, it fits in more with no.2 falling lightly after no.1, which remember, no.1 cannot push Thayer to B, but away. Resting on the bridge at the angle, it would also be in his way while under. 2 has the ability to rest Jack right up against B with the added suction bringing the boat more amidship and aft after 1 falling.

According to Gracie's testimony, there is no direct local aside being near the 2nd funnel, as Jack. His book on pg.59 shows that he was at the Officer's Quarters roof, between the 1st and 2nd stacks, just before the dome sits. This is correct in that this includes a door way for the grand stair case near by. This is one area where the mass of folk came up. Either way, 2 should miss him.

Recount that much of the suction after letting go could very well be from funnel no.2 as well.

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The center of rotation is near the third funnel, lightly aft of it and near the waterline and keel. The ship would continue to rotate from a more aft position the more it goes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BFux2AAMso

00:25 and end of vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Z_Hcg2wF8

^^ A good representation of this.

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The break is factoring the real list's extremety, which is testimony supported ("...nasty list over to port."). It even shows on the finite element. Gracie stated that one portion of the night included many people trying to lessen this list over to port. It's inspired by this factual pattern in testimony on board the ship.

-walkable angle with port list (wireless operator, Thayer accounts and others confirm)

-large port list with no portion of the starboard side rising near the back of the stern

-port list becomes too much

-trim list (fowards list) becomes extreme and lights fo out as bow section submerges more into water (read all of Joughin testimony at http://www.titanicinquiry.org )

In any of that, did you see any righting? Not really. This is what promoted many onboard to say that the ship did not right or break at all during the night. Only the Baker would be a hint on it, while others on board make it out as sinking intact almost all the time.

An explination on this can also be found here in Park's veriation of the same type of break up.

http://titanic.marconigraph.com/mgy_breakup3.html

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[ATITANIC1992]

This is a lie. Titanic did not have so significant list to portside. Sorry to say it, but it seems like you try to be a theory creator wannabe.

I can only dissociate myself from this

[silenceofthehills]

@ATITANIC1992

No, this is what I thought at the time. In retrospect, the list to port was factored in at about 9-10 degrees to port about over half way in the sinking. It did get worse accordind to several survivors, but then it even out back to about 8-10 degrees before teh plunge. On the outside it looks severe, but 10 degrees isn't too noticable by working with it. In reality, the ship broke lose as before and THEN took on an roll or shift over to port. This one is quite wrong.

[ATITANIC1992]

@silenceofthehills I respect your theory, i just dont agree with it. I'm also kinda conservative, it takes a lot of conviction to convince me.

Right now i believe in the book called "The last log of the Titanic" since i think it is most realistic, most considered and has the best arguments and a lot of facts. Also it harmonisies most what i believe what happened that fateful night

[silenceofthehills]

@ATITANIC1992

This isn't the right video to watch. Not much a theory but a collection of testimony given light. Its not as if i'm going up against anyone in a deeper technical level on the break up, though I show a few around to show its not an impossibility. If you want you may learn this by watching the updated videos. This was more on the shallowest of angle that was trying to remove too many veriables and add too much human superstition upon the testimony.

[crisrea12345]

this is completely boring without music... no offense just sharing my own opinion ;)

[silenceofthehills]

@crisrea12345

I can agree, I was going to put music in the new ones I guess, but then you have to worry about just getting agreements by tricking them with great music or presentation. So I though not to add music in the end, though I wouldn't know what to put in the end anyhow.

[motorguzzi100]

@ATITANIC1992 Read titanic the ship that never sank by author Robin Gardiner and his new book on same subject assurance fraud never read the books

[silenceofthehills]

@jetpoweredgriffin

Thank you. Iv'e done more with the new video. It should be up at least at the end of the month.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@silence

I admire your patience in attempting communication with a fellow creature that says things like."your an idiot"or "you...is being ignorant".

O,well,if we're ever suddenly called on to do a press conference and be expected to communicate with even more over-educated under-intelligent life forms-

at least you'll be ready.

You've surely done your homework.

How do these people even type at all?

That was more serious film,study&description than any 1000 videos here.

Keep up the good work

[YAIGpwnsass]

I figured something out. people say "ramming" the iceberg would have been better, less "damage". but when you think about it, the shutter of 25mph collsion, would have cause rivots to pop all over capsizing the ship within an hour.