America's Two Just Wars (1 of 5) Murray N Rothbard

Dr Murray N Rothbard delivers a brilliant talk on what he describes as America's only two "just" wars. Explanation is given as to why these two conflicts fit into a "just" category and why all other wars, including WWI & WWII, are illegitimate.

Full playlist is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clwZbQ5LoBI&feature=PlayList&p=02657F3...

Murray N Rothbard is probably the most recognized mind behind the modern resurgence of Jeffersonianism and libertarianism, and is a brilliant communicator of austrian economics in the tradition of Ludwig von Mises.

All of Dr Rothbard's works, both books and lectures, can be found at the site of the Ludwig von Mises Institute at http://www.mises.org.

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[brainpolice2]

Yes, and to deny the right of secession is a form of slavery in and of itself.

[Rico8458]

Rothbard is the king of the truth of money.

[richardcadbury]

The Confederacy was a threat to the slaves.

[thirdshift47]

The Civil War--a conflict between the wage slave based economy of Northern industrial capitalists vs the chattel slave based plantation economy of Southern agrarian capitalists.

A predictable outcome of the American ideology that exists 'til this day with the strongest market competitor feeding on the weakest.

[hungarygator]

@ransom22 Secession is certainly a right. Read the 9th and 10th amendments. The Founders certainly felt states had the right to secede if they wished just as they all seceded from the British Empire. 3 states ratified the constitution with the express reservation that they could secede if they chose and they all believed they had that right...and so did Lincoln in 1848 before Northeaster business interests explained how much money they stood to lose....

[ransom22]

@robertwc82 Sorry for misunderstanding you. Thank you for the clarification. I completely agree with you. Well said.

[robertwc82]

@ransom22 yeah but what i'm saying is you can not have a war without at least 1 side "acting against that standard of justce"

when i say justice i am talking about something objective. it is not relative to either sides opinion of what is moral but based on what actually is moral. my definition of immoral is causing unneccasary harm.

certain actions are objectively harmful

[ransom22]

@brainpolice2 Secession is not a right. When the Southern stated joined the United States, they agreed to abide by the law of the country as defined by the Constitution. They're choice to secede was not granted by the Constitution nor could it be justified by the Federal Government denying God given rights to the people upheld in the Constitution. The worst part is, considering how horrible the economy was in the South, the war probably wasn't even necessary to rebuild the Union.

[ransom22]

@robertwc82 The "just-ness" of a war, or of anything, must be based on an absolute standard of justice not defined by either side. With this in place and using Rothbard's definition of "just war" when one group is acting against that standard of justice and the opposing group is in line with that standard, that would be a just war.