Psychiatry - How they make a diagnosis
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@JLXOutlaw Part 3. Take someone with ADHD. Why should a child be forced to sit still in class by being drugged with Ritalin? Why don't we change their schooling environment and let them be outdoors running around more often? Today somebody with ADHD is labelled with a disability but if they were born in ancient Rome they might have been a successful powerful worrior and society jealous of their strenght. (not me I'm anti war haha).
Capitalism may be your Utopian society but its not for all
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@JLXOutlaw Part 2. On the other hand if somebody has a disability with maths and the same person were born in Feudal times, they might have been a successful Baron or King as maths wasn't required. So the environment dictates whether or not you have a disability.
What I've been trying to say is change the environment and not the person. We all need different social models to thrive in and this approach is better than labelling people.
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@JLXOutlaw Hi, I don't understand why you seem to be so quick at labelling people with a disability.
Going back to the horse analogy, what I'm saying is that somebody who has a disability riding a horse and using a sword effectively could be labelled as "disabled" during the 9th to 15th century. However the same person could be a successful banker in our present environment because using a sword and riding a horse are not required.
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@caketheory If not physical, what could be the other causes?
If after practice after practice after practice, there is little no improvement, hypothetically, what could we say? Something isn't right
Why is it that some individuals are inclined to succeed in sports? Gifted?
Why is it that some people have a knack for certain things?
Until you can understand that, you can't understand why certain people DON'T have knacks for things, infact some people have the opposite, & we call that a disability
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@caketheory Riding a horse and using a sword seem completely irrelevant to us, but we must put them in their context.
Riding takes a great deal of stamina and motor skills, as does using a sword.
These two specific skills take a great deal of our brain power to do properly.
They are also irrelevant to reading words out loud, or solving complex mathematical equations.
If an individual is not able to ride a horse or learn to sword fight, there must be a reason for it?
Physiological or otherwise.
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@caketheory Of life. What is the difference between an individual who is fully incapacitated and an individual who is only partially incapacitated. Lets even say, what's the difference between someone who is maybe only a tiny, tiny fraction incapacitated (math disability).
In a learning sense, both are disabilities...
Although it's silly to say a person with a "math disability" is as mentally incapable as a child with full-blown down syndrome, it still proves the point I'd like to make.
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@caketheory Thank you Cake,
I would say, regardless of how 'idiotic' something may be, if there is an unusual inability to understand and grasp any concept, to the point of repetitive failure... is that not classified as a disability?
A mentally incapacitated child is said to be disabled? Why? What criteria reinforce such a diagnosis?
We would say that the child is disabled because he lacks the ability to properly comprehend certain 'necessities' in generally all aspects.
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@JLXOutlaw Hi, I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle. In the UK compulsory education for kids was only established under Queen Victoria. Before that Feudalism was the mode of production and so "progressing further at school" wasn't required.
So during feudalism riding a horse and using a sword was required to progess, so if somebody wasn't good at horse riding or using a weapon (compared to everybody else) does that mean they had a severe brain deficiency?
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@JLXOutlaw I appreciate your sentiment but conciliatory words aren't going to make matters better. 11% of this country over the age of 12 is on anti-depressants which is pure criminal. Psychiatry and its apologists need to be stopped or drastically change the way they do business. Your profession at large is bought and paid for by big pharma. You guys are the psychos putting kids on Seroquel. I've done the research, psychiatry is a sick joke. You wouldn't last two days in my shoes.
lol...you have ali Gs accent. The brain is mostly unknown....a great organ for a drug company scam.
the7thwreck 1 year ago 4
@kmullican123 Well I'm sure many people with fibromyalgia are told it doesn't exist by their doctor but I think your missing the point. I'm not saying these people are pretending to be ill or its in their imagination.
You used the brain scan scenario for scizophrenia but this is just a hypothesis. The reason its not used as a diagnostic test is because there's conflicting evidence, so some schizophrenics brains are similar to everyone else's.
caketheory 9 months ago