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  • Hey Rev,

    (can you please) make a twitter account so I can follow the plethora of things you post and update (because obviously, I love you... in a heterosexual way. Hell, who am I to judge.)

  • Actually, Assassin's Creed's story involves a lot of intentional self-contradiction when it comes to Altair's motive. He begins to question what he's doing and why. His master tells him one thing, while his targets tell him another. Really, I think it's a very interesting story.

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  • I like anti-heroes better than heroes & villians (mainly because they are more realistic relateable. They are not 100% good nor are they all out evil, they are realistic! & most anti-heroes have lost every thing leaving nothing else to lose, thats what i love most about them.

  • Like Leon in RE4, yeah, I got your cure right here.

  • Wow, Mercer can get around. I wanna play infamous or prototype now...

  • On the subject of Alerx Mercer,

    SPOILER ALERT

    Mercer is a monster, he's plainly psychotic and murderous. He's also dead by the time gameplay begins. You(player) are not Mercer. You are the Blacklight virus using his appearance. As the game progresses, players get to watch a biological weapon become a better person than the psycho who unleashed it on a city.

  • @bigniggurdick yeah man kraotos is like the most stupidest game ever! now god of war now thats an amazing game :D

  • That argument between Wolverine being a good guy vs being a killing machine is kinda build into his character. Just saying that's at least attempting to be fair to the sources character.

  • "violence can be used for good."

  • That's what help make the twist in Bioshock so great. You were told you were doing everything that you were doing for good, but it turned out you were doing it for this crazy mobster, which made you evil.

  • Kratos is the gayest video game character ever.

  • is being attacked or the situation calls for it. Someone else even mentioned that Saber Tooth reminding him hes a monster,made him snap.

  • I agree on what your saying issue wise but Hulk and Wolverine don't really come off as Villians to me. Both are very violent and enjoy fights but for they usually seem to act that way for different reasons to me. I'm not a comic historian but from what I recall from the movies and TV shows: When hulk only fights when being attacked or made.Dave(I think its his name)gets away before thing get bad. Wolverine,doesn't go around kicking people into traffic or anything uncalled for violently.Unless he

  • From what I've heard of the second one, it seems like they were trying to not to pretend Alex is a hero, but to show that he's CONVINCED himself he's a hero, despite how clearly evil he is.

  • In the words of MovieBob:

    "If you want to be a jerk, fine! Be a jerk. Just don't claim to be storming the gates of Mordor when all your doing is just spitting on the overpass."

  • I myself don't really like nor understand the appeal of anti-heroes. The thing is that most anti-heroes are selfish sociopaths who don't care who dies or lives. I kinda hated Snake Plissken's attitude as I watched Escape from New York.

  • @unsuburban GTA isn't any better. Yep. Don't care.

  • @lashkaretoiba

    its less about killing the fascist and more about BEING ABLE TO KILL EVERYONE (including the inhabitants of the city you're trying to "save"). the storyline of a game doesnt give you a choice between being the good guy or the bad guy. so you, here, are automatically the good guy by default story, where as gameplay has you doing completely different (ie. slicing up innocents for more power).

  • @legacyspy The story writers would disagree with you on Alex's alignment. According to TV Tropes, there're Prototype tie-in comics that depict Alex as being less enthusiastic about all the murder he gets up to and even, at one point, trying to evacuate the civilians out of an area where he's about to enact one of his collateral damage-heavy plans. So the problem is the game's designers (who pretty much rigged the mechanics to encourage mass-murder) weren't on the same page as the writers.

  • @MyOwnNameWasTaken And by the way I'm not really sure what you're talking about when you say that most cutscenes/voiceovers are from later in the storyline. They are spread throughout the storyline.

  • @MyOwnNameWasTaken That's an interesting interpretation. Unfortunately that's all it is: one person's interpretation. And that's the problem. The actual game doesn't even try to tackle the question of story/gameplay consistency that it raises. It instead simply leaves the players to try and come up with their own interpretations. The game itself never actually explains itself. This issue may not be unique to Prototype but it's certainly especially obvious with Prototype.

  • Who is David? o.O

  • Eh. I thought it was pretty clear in prototype mercer isn't a hero.

    The issue with hulk and wolverine, and is they allow you to play out of character. So of course if you play out of character it doesn't make sense. But it is more fun.

  • Eh. I thought it was pretty clear in prototype mercer isn't a hero.

    The issue with hulk and wolverine, and is they allow you to play out of character. So of course if you play out of character it doesn't make sense.

  • @silentdragon2100 The way I saw it, Alex Mercer is not your character: he's a sick sociopath who tried to take the whole planet with him by releasing the virus, and was the first person consumed by it. You play the result -- the virus infection having only the fragmented memories of a sociopath as a guide to being human. But consuming other, better people broadens its perspective, so that by the end, it hates what it did before. Most cut scenes/voiceovers are from later in the storyline.

  • Dude, my name's David. Congratulations, you totally scared the shit out of me XD

  • Seriously, I don't understand why killing fascist makes Alex not an anti-hero. I wasn't aware that there was a special way to go about killing them that would make him an anti-hero. Would it be better if he went about it like Dexter? If he did then the whole game play would change. But whatever, I just don't get what you are saying I guess.

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