MORALITY WITHOUT GOD

Can Morality exist without God? No. Morality is prescribed by God the creator of all things?

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[arthurjeremypearson]

Is Forgiveness "right" of god to do in all cases? No.

Absolution from evil acts, "forgiveness," can be wrong: Your god would bring into heaven a serial killer who had a deathbed conversion. He would also send to Hell a moral, upstanding, generous, and kind man who simply didn't believe in your exact god.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I've misinterpreted something.

[GodIsReal101]

@arthurjeremypearson You are wrong on one key topic. The God of the bible does not believe forgiveness is more right or sometimes right it is not done out of retrobution either. Foregiveness is from the grace of God Mercy is the driving force. But it sounds like the Justice of the lord is what you question. I can see your point and without Jesus Christ paying for the sins of those people then we are all lost in our sins. You view this world on a scale but God views it as 1 Sin seperates us.

[arthurjeremypearson]

@GodIsReal101 Could you rephrase that? I'm pretty sure I didn't understand what you said, and I don't want to reply without fully understanding your view.

I will try rephrasing my point in an effort to help you define yours:

The sin of the serial killer is tangible and real: he killed people, and didn't stop.

The sin of the moral, upstanding, generous, and kind man is a thought: mentally rejecting god.

Are our acts on earth more important, or the thoughts in our head?

[BaneOfAzrael]

@GodIsReal101

There is a very strict morality in buddhism which in my opinion is superior to christianity. There is no God of buddhism.

[cr4yv3n]

Is there morality without god?

If you answer: NO, then you are moral only because you FEAR the policeman in the sky - you anti-social and probably a danger to humanity and should be locked up.

[TehOrkyMan]

@Honestinwilkesbarre

Acts 12:23 "And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost."

It's fairly close.

[fede2]

obviously you can't determine what is right or wrong without first considering a standard. meta-ethics: what is that standard? devine-comand theory is just one of those positions, a very dubious one (and the least appealing in terms of it's consequences).

[TheSaturnalia]

@Honestinwilkesbarre So you're a barbarian. Unlike you I don't need a book to tell me right from wrong. Especially the so called 'holy' bible. That book is one that would encourage you to commit any and all atrocities in the name of gawd. Have a look at some other books. I'd recommend the 'God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

[muaythaijunky]

@Honestinwilkesbarre um i think you need to crack open your bible good sir. it says god is morality when it says he is the greatest good. he is what defines morality is he not? the doctor scenario is not a proper example in this situation. the better is philosophy and the philosopher. also old testament still goes. not a single letter is omitted and he who relaxes any of the commandments is least likely to be called into the kingdom. not perfect quotes there but got out the points.

[Honestinwilkesbarre]

@tallliza I agree with killing adulterers, along with their accomplices and those who enable adultery. Adultery is not a choice or private to the adulterer, it is abuse and it destroys families and lives!

[Honestinwilkesbarre]

@tallliza Where in the New Testament does God order us to kill anyone? In fact, after Jesus was born, I defy you to find one instance where God communicated with anyone until Jesus was put to death.

[Honestinwilkesbarre]

@muaythaijunky Do you know the medicinal value of your doctor? Your doctor has no medicinal value, he isn't medicine he prescribes medicine. God isn't moral or amoral, God prescribes morality to us. My morals never conflict with the Bible. That's because I don't do those things the people of the Old Testament were directed to do. Those instructions were for them. Our directions come from the New Testament, where we entered into a NEW covenant with God.