Room 105 Social Organization

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[berniemacster]

idk, tribalism didn't seem to work very well in Lord of the Flies, as far as i have read (we're reading it in my English class)

[AdamHintz]

I think Lord of the flies is more about communism than it is tribalism.

[ozjthomas]

Dammit, Adam, you're just so darn smart. Seriously. Thank you. :)

[AdamHintz]

Ha! No, I just like to spread memes. Thanks for the support!

[berserkerkev]

I am 52 and follower of Ishmael for 10 yrs with the book and an unknowing follower for a few more. I am working diligently to spread the word as a B via an internet talk show to create an opt out/tribal culture too. will post sites and show etc. shortly. screw Mother culture and its life destroying controlling ways. quit playing. quit fostering. quit feeding that nasty bitch.

[permacultureli]

tribal sounds great, but it is more about the stuff allowing people to become members of a functional tribe, about the software...I struggle to feel connected to the society around me because when i adress it, it seems my discourse is bent on changing it...and soooo...I feel and appear more like an outsider. You and many of my friends at least seem to be surrounded by people more like yourselfs.

But yes, a tribe has always seemed to me closer to functional than the abstract mass arrangement.

[BgnrMdl1]

Tribes had a rich poor system; the Pacific Northwest cultural system of potlatches that basically created a rich and poor/slave society.

When a hunter of any group of people came back the leader and/or the hunter/s would get the best cuts and parts of the animal going down the line the lowest outcasts/untouchables/social pariahs/slaves would eithier have to beg for what was left or get the least wanted cuts.

Communalism is the answer; read about a Kibbutz not about tribal societies.

[berniemacster]

Haha, that's funny

[dQuarters]

I think Tribal is just fine. All word wars are worth fighting. And if it is tribal that needs understanding, then keep pushing the term. Socialism has a bad ring to it now, thanks to the media and it's puppets.

In fact, putting "ism" after anything lends itself to attacker, while democraCY remains untouched.

CommunISM, CapitalISM, TribalISM, SexISM, RacISM, etc.

Maybe we should call it Tibalcy?

[bbbleaver]

"...the remit of the priest,..."

this is would be an accurate assumption for western civilization, where the priests are sharing the control of minds/spirit with tv and the purveyors of media/politics/etc...

this does not accurately reflect the rest (3 or 4 million years) of human experience. and yeah, the influence of religion is pervasive even for those of us who don't participate in it.

[fr3thinker]

But as Thomas Szasz says, and I paraphrase: the mind and soul used to be the remit of the priest, now it is the remit of the mental health doctor.

Back to my opinions: well, still many people are religious, or influenced by religious doctrine and teachings, so even with religion separated from political position, the fear from religion still has much power and influence on the minds of the religious and even the non religious who were brought up with religious teachings or were once religious.

[bbbleaver]

that religious groups can organize themselves in a tribal manner is possible, i believe. though, i know of no civilized folk in religious organizations who have done this; distinct leaders are visible; ie. one sits and is preached to. the rigidity of ceremony is maintained and spontaneity is not allowed, which is the central focus of ritual in indigenous life allowing all to 'commune' individually together as opposed to prayer that happens alone or quietly in ones own mind. unless u r a penecost