Beyond Theism and On with Evolution: Part One in a Series

"Any god who can be killed ought to be killed."-Clifford Stanley

This message is just an introduction to "Beyond Theism and On with Evolution" at WeAreWideAwake.org May 29, 2010, which goes onto explore a little of Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine's contributions to religion and spirituality.

By eileen fleming, Author and Founder of WeAreWideAwake.org
A feature correspondent of Arabisto.com
Staff member Salem-News.com
Producer "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu"

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Spirituality
• God
• PURE BEING
• Jesus
• THE PRINCE OF PEACE
• Christianity
• Resurrection
• Bishop John Shelly Spong
• Paul Tillich
• Judaism
• Mother Teresa
• Tom Paine
• John Lennon
• eileen fleming
• WeAreWideAwake
• evolution
• revolution
• religion
• synpotic gospels
• theism
• Clifford Stanley
• Christian Existentialism

[richardaberdeen]

[ continuing ] And finally, evolution has no bearing on theism. Evolution is at best, a highly inadequate explanation for how creation functions in the real world. It does not satisfy or even address origins and as such, evolution does not belong in a legitimate discussion on God. Whether one is an atheist or a conservative Christian, the theory of evolution neither proves nor disproves the existence of God.

[eileenfleming]

@richardaberdeen AH, what i am talking about when I say EVOLUTION is RE: The Prince of Peace message to WAKE UP and see The Divine within yourself-all others-all of Creation and in every situation.

This is how mystics 'think' and mystics-stage 4 souls- are challenged by the inadequacy of semantics to explain intuitive thought.

[richardaberdeen]

This video is correct that Christianity has nothing in common with Jesus. It is incorrect in assuming that Paul is the founder of Christianity. Paul referred to himself as a follower of "the way" several times but never as a Christian and appears in Acts to have deliberately avoided referring to himself as a Christian when responding to a Roman ruler. In Corithinians (AD 50), considered the most authentic of Paul's letters, he refers to the physical ressurection.

[eileenfleming]

@richardaberdeen THANK YOU for this and YES indeed i am aware that Paul was a member of THE WAY!

Did you know that many Biblical scholars today say that the writings attributed to Paul-were NOT All written by Paul-just in his name- which does help explain some of his convoluted logic!

I am not sure if i am remembering right-but i think i read it in a book by Irish-American ex-Catholic priest John Dominic Crossan. I will go and search and let you know next week.

[eileenfleming]

Dominion never meant to rape and plunder, but to nurture, care and love

For every misunderstanding, every condemning thought, every negative vibration, every tear torn from a heart, every time one grabbed and wouldn't let go, and they only did it because they did not know:

The Divine is within all creation and within all women and men.

TBC

[eileenfleming]

And every tiny kindness you have ever done, every gentle word spoken, every time you held your tongue, every positive thought, every smile freely given, every helping hand that opens, helps bring in the kingdom.

And the kingdom comes from above, and it comes from within.

Imagine a kingdom of sisterhood of all creatures and all men.

Christianity was founded by rebels, revolutionaries and dissidents, not conservatives or neo-cons. And same can be said for America!

little sister,

xoxe

[acyberguy]

Hi, I am new to youtube as a participant and looking around. I have been interested in apologetics but find that to be a strain. I liked your video as a rest break from antagonistic arena of apologetics. I am looking for my space on youtube.

[Padgeify]

Thank you it helped answer a few Eileen.However i feel i have more questions than answers, would it be ok to correspond with you when ever i feel troubled??? I feel like i have kept an open mind and never took side to a particulr religion. Following Martin Luther the man who challeneged the church not white supremacy. (he made the 99 thesis) he preached that faith alone is the route to salvation i will follow this proclamation for now.

[forty911]

Its became quite clear to me that Life always existed. Even before this earth was formed. If there was a Father and Son, there had to have been a Mother too. It even talks of sons of god loving the human ladies. Something went wrong in paradise. So Adam and Eve were hear to try and get things right, from what went wrong. There is a mystery of god which is to be understood in the days of the Rock and Roll of the 7 Pearls (as I call them) of Thunder kept secret in Revelations 10.

[forty911]

Its became quite clear to me that Life always existed. Even before this earth was formed. If there was a Father and Son, there had to have been a Mother too. It even talks of sons of god loving the human ladies. Something went wrong in paradise. So Adam and Eve were hear to try and get things right, from what went wrong. There is a mystery of god which is to be understood in the days of the Rock and Roll of the 7 Pearls (as I call them) of Thunder kept secret in Revelations 10.

[dave777blaster]

great video

[Bern938]

Re: Edom, "I will not give you so much as a foot of ground among them." It's not that God loved the poor, mistreated, etc, but that's all that's left for Christians.

Evolution is incompatible with creation. On the 3rd day were plants; on the 5th, animals. The rainbow, the sign of the covenant that appeared many days after the flood, is a change in light refraction-- therefore a change in physics. No observation can note that.

"When they measure themselves by themselves, they are not wise."

[abbeyharry1952]

Very Interesting Video

Very Well Spoken .

Thanks For Sharing

Keep Smiling

[BobbyHughes1957]

Very enlightening!  Thumbs up.

Peace,

Bobby

[forty911]

@eileenfleming It become quite clear to me that life always existed, even before this Earth was formed. Something went wrong back there, which was suppose to be fixed here. We all just had to be there in the beginning. Man was told what needed to be said back in those Ancient times. All this could be the mystery of god, which is to be revealed in the 7 Pearls (As I call the.) of Thunder, kept secret in Revelations 10, who are Rock and Roll.

[forty911]

It become quite clear to me that life always existed, even before this Earth was formed. Something went wrong back there, which was suppose to be fixed here. We all just had to be there in the beginning. Man was told what needed to be said back in those Ancient times. All this could be the mystery of god, which is to be revealed in the 7 Pearls (As I call the.) of Thunder, kept secret in Revelations 10, who are Rock and Roll.