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Brief history of Uyghurs in Xinjiang

** Before Chinese Han Dynasty 200 BC:

Central Asia was a region predominately occupied by ancient Persian tribes such as the sedentary Sogdians ( 粟特), Chorasmians (花剌子模) and, the semi-nomadic such as Scythians (斯基泰, 西徐亞, 塞種), and Alans (奄蔡). The ancient sedentary population played an important role in the history of Central Asia. Tajiks, Pashtuns (普什图), Pamiris (塔吉克) and other Persian groups are still present in the region. The ancient Persian language (Dari) is still the official language in Afganistan and in some areas in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Turkic group of people, such as Uyghurs, came to Central Asia very late in history (after 800 AD), much later than Han Chinese did in 200 BC.

** Chinese Han Dynasty in Xinjiang (206 BC to 220 AD):

Han Chinese extended its power influence in the forms of territory and protectorates in today's Xinjiang, part of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Today's Xinjinag was again under the power influence (protectorates and territory) of Tang Dynasty (618-907AD) and became territory of Qing Dynasty (1644-1911AD). Peoples Republic of China has taken over the territory sovereignty over Xinjiang from Qing Dynasty and Republic of China.

** Uyghur emigrated in Xinjiang (840-850 AD):

Uyghur Empires (742-848 AD, 回纥 or 回鶻) was in today's Mongolia with the capital at Ordu Baliq that located 300 km west of Ulaanbaatar (close to Town of Hotont) and it was annihilated by Kyrgyz tribe in 848 AD. The Kyrgyz destroyed and burned down every Uyghur cities and villages throughout the empire. Three groups of Uyghurs escaped from the annihilation. One group escaped to today's Gansu area and assimilated with Han Chinese. Another group escaped to today's Turpan in central Xinjiang. The last group escaped further west and scattered over today's Kashgar in south Xinjiang, Kyrgyzstan, Tajkistan and Uzbekistan.

Uyghurs has never had appreciable presence in north Xinjiang. They are mostly concentrated in Kashgar, Khotan, Aksu, and Kizilsu areas in south Xinjiang and Turpan in central Xinjiang. Uyghur is about 46% of the total population in Xinjiang, Han 40% and Kazak 7%. To call Xinjiang as "UYGHUR" Autonomous Region" is highly debatable.

** Xiongnu, Turkics and Turks

Turkics/Turks are Turko-Mongolian Tribes originated from today's Mongolia area. The ancesters of Uyghurs (维吾尔) is Xiongnu (匈奴). The earliest written record of Xiongnu or Turk (Tujue, 突厥) in history was in Han Dynasty around 200BC. The earliest use of the term "Uyghur" in history was in Northern Wei Dynasty (386-534 AD). Earlier historical written records of Xiongnu, Turk or Uyghur are all done by Han Chinese because they lacked the ability of reading and writing.

The Reading and writing is an essential for any moderate sophisticated society during the evolution. Some civilization had never reached to such level of sophistication before it vanished. The transition from nomadic to sedentary is an important evolution in the early human civilization history. The four oldest human civilizations all arose on the basins of major rivers; Tigris-Euphrates, Nile, Indus and Yellow Rivers, where the fertile alluvial farm lands were easily found.

Farming, villages, cities, state-nation, different social classes, political and economic systems are the backbone of the civilization. In the process of evolution, the need for written records for economic and political affairs occurred naturally. That was why all these old civilization had evolved the writings as earlier as in 5000BC or 6000BC

The relatively primitive nature of Turkish/Turkic culture has always influenced by the outside cultures. First the Persian influence, then Arab, and European is the most recently.

All Turkic people have learnt how to read and write very late in human hostory. Uyghur was the first Turkic group learnt the reading and writing after they emigrated from Kyrgyz annihilation in Mongolia to today's Turpan and Tarim Basin. The writing script they used was from the ancient Persian Sogdiana script.

Arab had huge influence on Turks/Turkics after 800 or 900 AD as Turks/Turkics have adapted Islam religion and change into the Arabic scripts in writing.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the father of modern Turkey, wanted to Europeanize Turks in 1920s with the intention to get rid of Arabic influence. He wanted Turks to dress like Europeans, and write like Europeans. However, after almost 60 years of continuous efforts, Turkey is still not accepted as the full membership at EU.

Thanks to the Chinese government for preserving the minority culture, All the Trukic minorities in China still uses the Arab writing script. All Turkic or Turkish groups in all other countries, including Turkey, have changed to either Russian Cyrillic or Latin alphabet.

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[67BXB]

Also, (last comment) while it is true that sedentary agricultural peoples were the first to organize, build cities and start writing, there were also disadvantages. Because they were dependent on their land for food, they lost their freedom. They couldn't leave whenever they wanted. Whoever owned (or forcefully claimed) their land also owned the farmers. They became slaves while nomadic peoples were always free, jumped on their horses, left and switched tribes if their leader became a tyrant.

[sogdia]

@67BXB I am not interested to talk to you. You are a sick dirty Uyghur donkey, just like sick Chinese or sick Muslim.

If you love Chinese then move back to China, if you love Muslim then move to Turkey. We don't have such sick person here. Get off my channel!

[67BXB]

Sogdians (zarthoshti) were an ancient people who were very tolerant to other religions and cultures. I'm sure they would be ashamed of you and wouldn't want you to use their name. I don't know what country you are from but I bet those Uyghurs have more Sogdian blood than you. Maybe the reason you are so anti-turkic is because some Uyghur or Turk stole your girlfriend? Or you liked a Turkish/Turkic girl but she didn't want you?

[sogdia]

@67BXB Sogdians are just one of the ancient Persian tribes in Central Asia, mostly concentrated in today's Uzekistan.

Again, Sogdians and Uyghurs are completely different, speak different languages. Turkics have learnt many things from Sogdians because of the silk road.

"stole my girl friend"? "like Turkic girl"?! What you are talking about?! You are a sick Uyghur! Chinese have taight you bad things. Only your Chairman Mao is homosexual.

[67BXB]

Historically, you are right that Indo-European peoples (Tocharians) might have lived in Xinjiang before the Turco-Mongolian Uyghurs arrived, but you forget one thing. The modern uyghurs are not only descendants of those Turco-Mongols but also of the indigenous Tocharians. Autosomal DNA Ancestry tests show that Uyghurs are 60% Caucasoid and 40% Mongoloid. Likewise, Anatolian Turks are also mostly descended (80%) from indigenous Anatolians. So Uyghurs/Tocharians ARE native to Xinjiang.

[sogdia]

@67BXB AGAIN, Tocharians have NOTHING to do with Uyghurs or any Turkic. They speak different languages. Tocharians are Ancient Persian tribe.

Don't make me laugh about your DNA theory. What you will tell me next?! the "mysterious Uyghur pyramid" that Chinese try to hide? Uyghurs are the great "Mu" people in Burma with 70,000 years of history? C'mon, I have seen enough of these on YouTube. It just shows the ignorance of these stupid cheap Uyghurs who immigranted to Europe.

[esincafe]

pleace do not take care of the provocations from the turkish enemy`s

Lovely song from lovely Tutkish -UYgur girl´s

Love from Denmark

[EastTurkestanLegion]

@sogdia You can understand why it is so difficult to take a history lesson from someone who uses mindless insults every two words and calling someone a donkey while they have absolutely no harmful intentions.

[67BXB]

@sogdia Tocharians are not a Persian tribe. They are a separate branch of Indo-Europeans, just like Germanics, Armenians and Greeks are. By the way, Sanskrit, Urdu, Hindi, Persian, Pashto and Kurdish are all Indo-Iranian languages but Tocharian is again a separate language branch.

Also, DNA doesn't lie. It is a FACT that Ughurs are more Caucasoid than Mongoloid. The ancestry theories are only there to explain those DNA results but the results itself can't be denied.

[67BXB]

@sogdia Hahaha who is sick here? You behave like a little spoiled brat. For your information I am not muslim, uyghur, mongol, chinese or russian. I am Mesopotamian. We invented writing by the way. Since that is so important for you. Long before Turks, Arabs, Persians, Jews and Greeks even existed my people were already writing in 3000 BC and had an advanced civilization which did not have it's equal in the world. Still you don't see me calling other peoples ignorant or stupid donkeys.

[sogdia]

@67BXB You are Mongol. People still call you Mongol in Europe today.

Your ancestors are one of the Mongol tribe called Tiele around Lake Baikal area in north of today's Mongolia, south Siberia.

I should make some video of the native Mongol Shamanic people when I was there last time.

Tocharians have nothing to do with Uyghurs or any Turkic people. Tocharian language is in Indo-European language family, not Altaic languag family. Altaic languages are Turkic, Tungusic, Japanese, Korean.

[sogdia]

@67BXB Another stupid donkey from Europe - Netherlands this time.

The whole Europe want to get rid of you stupid donkeys, what are you doing there? cheap labour?!