Rafale at Nato Tiger Meet 09 - Kleine Brogel

French Rafale at Nato Tiger Meet 09, Kleine Brogel, Belgium air force base.
Start-up, roll out, take off, landing and taxi

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• Kleine Brogel
• roll out
• take off
• landing and taxi

[Thirras88]

Rafale for the Brazilian Air Force !!!

[marmiedoise]

@Nannu65 you sure?? Eurofighter was build after Rafale, the french plane make it proof in Lybia what about eurofighter?? To finish eurofighter is really awful, the rafale have a great design!!

You just idiot or jealous!! anyway we have got one of the best plane in the world and eurofighter can wait!!

[chinesecowards]

software .

[superskullmaster]

@marmiedoise No the F-15 back a few years ago was just under $18,000 an hour to operate. Should be roughly $10,000 and hour for the F-16(it might have 1 engine but it still needs maintenace like a beast). The F-22 only cost more to operate than the F-15 because of the RA skin. Fuel cost is similar.

[marmiedoise]

@marmiedoise i make a mistake in this message, i want to speak about the fly cost not for the f16 but for the f15 eagle and f15 silent eagle.

[superskullmaster]

@marmiedoise Common sense should tell you that I cannot tell you anything you can't find on your own. Plus I build C-130-J's. All i know is what a few F-22 guys have mentioned before and again its nothing you can't find online if you look hard enough.

As for the F-117, yea tough break for that bird. Got to see one up close once when I deployed. Really amazing for old technology. Remmber the plane is as old as the technology that shot it down.

[marmiedoise]

@superskullmaster You Work for Lockheed, interesting thing so we can have good info about the planes they devellop ;)

For memory, we don t care about the 4th or 5th generation of planes it s only a "seller argument" and to proove that remember during the war in Kossovo a f117 was destroy buy a serbian anti plane system ( 70s technology ) and at that time the f117 was considered as the best and no "detectable" plane so... Between the paper and the reality it s always different don t forget that.

[marmiedoise]

@superskullmaster I heard that one hour fly for F16 was 25 000 us dollar and 40 000 for f22 and for one hour of fly, f22 need 30 hours of repair and maintenance, but may be those info are wrong. For f35 we will see when it finish if so many countries will buy it and how many planes exactly, actually it s only orders. Some british officiers declare that for missions they will choose Rafale not the Typhoon. India and Bresil are interest by the french plane. 126 orders for India at last we ll see.

[superskullmaster]

@marmiedoise No the only reason it isn't available for export is politics. Japan wanted some. Not sure who else. Cost aside the F-22 is a great plane. I'm not saying the Rafale isn't but its not a 5th gen fighter you can't really compare the two. I'd compare the Rafale more to an F-16. Obviously its a newer gen plane but lets be real, we have 3 times the amount of fighters anyone else has and we export. Not many people jumping on the Rafale purchase train. How many F-35 orders?

[superskullmaster]

@marmiedoise I work at Lockheed Marietta. I am well aware of the F-22 fly away cost. As for per hour. Its not that much more than a F-15. Maybe $20,000 per hour give or take. Is it worth it? Well someone who doesn't have can only downplay and hate.

As for the inability to speak with other aircraft. Yea that is pretty gay, I only learned about that a few months. Ago. Funny enough, ive been working here since April last year and just now saw an F-22 fly out of here. Maybe the last.

[marmiedoise]

@superskullmaster like you said " a little lower " it s a joke!! Do you know exactly the price of the F22?? Do you know how many cost one hour of flight??

F22 have pb, it doesn t speak with other planes like F16, F15, F18 even with Awaks, the paint use for radar deception cost my balls and the armament system is so expensive, ect... The truth is that you will never export that plane not because of all his secret system but because is too expensive to buy and to repair. And that you can t deny!!

[superskullmaster]

@marmiedoise Don't get me wrong, I don't really like the F-35. Its slower than the F-16 thats a big deal. But in every other facet it dangles its stealthy fruit over the heads of the other fighters made in the last 10 years. As for the F-22. You know how pissing contests go. Nukes have only been used once but we have them for a reason. "JUST IN CASE". That said, if the price was a little lower and it was available for export, every country on earth would be trying to buy. And that you cant deny.