Secret Chiefs 3 - Combat For The Angel

Combat For The Angel, from: Book M is the third studio album by Secret Chiefs 3. It was released in 2001.

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[OberonTheGoat]

@deepseabattles ooh, I think I hear it. crazy syncopation of the guitar and bass is throwing me off, but the regularities of the rhythm are more apparent in the solo break. Phew, I bet rehearsals for this one were intense...

[deepseabattles]

@OberonTheGoat You're overthinking it. The whole song is 4/4, including the bass & drums rhythm during the violin solo. The snare drum accents beat one, so the downbeat is a little hard to distinguish. Trey certainly composed this rhythm to throw off anyone looking for an easy downbeat.

If I get a chance I'll make a recording of a metronome countring ONE TWO THREE FOUR over the sections in question to prove my point. Quite a clever little piece and great to talk shop over :)

[OberonTheGoat]

It returns to the 4/4 chorus without a hitch (if you're counting four beats all the way through the song) but does that necessarily mean that the entire song is in 4/4? I was thinking that it was simply a matter of the beats "rejoining" the 4/4 structure at the least common multiple. (e.g. 8 measures at 3/4 would catch up in the equivalent of 6 measures of 4/4). Thoughts on this?

[deepseabattles]

The whole song is in 4/4

[jaredjaredj]

i jack off to this song...really hard and in time

[narcophobe]

def! "limping beats" abound. extra trip-out about Middle Eastern classical music is that it isn't Western-metronomic. yikes! a Chief i know recounted Trey explaining the irregular pulse rhythm of something he wanted them to play. it was so woobly wobbly, two notes one speed three notes another and so on, that it took hours for our hero to even UNDERSTAND this one groove, i believe the poor bastard had to grow a second and third brain to survive the experience. ouch! hee hee. 

[ColinBarbaria]

@narcophobe Its pretty common in middle eastern to have these odd time signatures

[narcophobe]

not that some extreme counting isn't involved in SC3. Trey is big numbers because of his obsession with hermeticism, secret societies and mystery cults. he also loves Kabalism. Orphic mysteries and Kabalist = nutty about numbers. apparently the "Book" albums are all one giant hibbety gibbety math problem. nerdtacular! it also means plenty of time sigs. just felt like pointing out other rhythm things he does, since his music is kind of a dissertation on advanced rhythm theory.

[nbramsey1]

i cant count this! any help with the time signature(s)?

[ArchetypalMudbricks]

Sweeeeeeeet.